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<blockquote data-quote="Kobold Avenger" data-source="post: 7526418" data-attributes="member: 779">That's just using unarmed strikes, a monk with a spear or quarterstaff in 2 hands at 1st level would be doing even more damage.&nbsp; I think in this circumstance they should be compared against a 2-weapon fighter with a rapier and shortsword which does slightly more damage at 1st level.&nbsp; But I can see from his discussion about the Monk, that maybe the Monk could get something else other than what is effectively the two-weapon fighting style.But beyond damage output, I think it's very appealing catching arrows, bolts or even bullets (depending on the campaign) and throwing them back at opponents.I know that Bards have never been taken seriously across any edition, but they've always been one of my favourite classes.&nbsp; Even if the Bard is being role-played in a comedic role, which is quite common in my experience, it can still be a very effective character across many situations.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kobold Avenger, post: 7526418, member: 779"] That's just using unarmed strikes, a monk with a spear or quarterstaff in 2 hands at 1st level would be doing even more damage. I think in this circumstance they should be compared against a 2-weapon fighter with a rapier and shortsword which does slightly more damage at 1st level. But I can see from his discussion about the Monk, that maybe the Monk could get something else other than what is effectively the two-weapon fighting style. But beyond damage output, I think it's very appealing catching arrows, bolts or even bullets (depending on the campaign) and throwing them back at opponents. I know that Bards have never been taken seriously across any edition, but they've always been one of my favourite classes. Even if the Bard is being role-played in a comedic role, which is quite common in my experience, it can still be a very effective character across many situations. [/QUOTE]

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