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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9780525" data-attributes="member: 93670">I think that the problem is to some degree less a matter of how many than how flexible they have become under 5e's neo vancian prep.&nbsp; If you look at the old slot progression tables in past editions casters tended to have more total spell slots at just about every level and a tighter spell selection for each level of slot since 3-6 N level slots need to hold N level spells but in 5e they can simpy upcast any A-S tier equal or lower level spell while the prep slots gained with those N level spell slots get devoted to preparing a wider selection of higher level spells to slot into whatever higher level slots the PC has.Simply giving us a variant that rolls casters back to ad&amp;d2e or 3.x class specific style slot progression &amp; slot recovery with vancian prep would probably solve a lot for tables where the gm is then able to say &quot;because of how you guys kept doing x last campaign/adventure we will be using this set of variant rules going forward&quot; without needing to hear &quot; man... You &amp; your house rules I just want to play d&amp;d, not whatever this is&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 9780525, member: 93670"] I think that the problem is to some degree less a matter of how many than how flexible they have become under 5e's neo vancian prep. If you look at the old slot progression tables in past editions casters tended to have more total spell slots at just about every level and a tighter spell selection for each level of slot since 3-6 N level slots need to hold N level spells but in 5e they can simpy upcast any A-S tier equal or lower level spell while the prep slots gained with those N level spell slots get devoted to preparing a wider selection of higher level spells to slot into whatever higher level slots the PC has. Simply giving us a variant that rolls casters back to ad&d2e or 3.x class specific style slot progression & slot recovery with vancian prep would probably solve a lot for tables where the gm is then able to say "[I]because of how you guys kept doing x last campaign/adventure we will be using this set of variant rules going forward[/I]" without needing to hear " man... You & your house rules I just want to play d&d, not whatever this is" [/QUOTE]

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