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Message: <blockquote data-quote="M_Natas" data-source="post: 9781168" data-attributes="member: 7025918">Yes, I also checked my calculations from the 'Wizard vs Fighter - The Math' thread, which still uses 2014 characters. According to my calculations, the 2024 Earth Elemental is an extreme (1.5x deadly) challenge for a 2014 Level 4 party of four characters (if no vulnerabilities are exploited) - it is a little weaker than extreme in the damage department, but still does more damage than a deadly encounter should. Due to the 2014 Earth Elemental's lower HP, it would just be a deadly challenge.An extreme Challenge would take away roughly 50% of party HP.Now, I didn't have the time to do the math for the 2024 classes, I don't know how much stronger those would be.So, now lets see for a 4 Character strong Level 1 Party - that would be 8 Goblin Warriors for a high difficulty in 2024 (400xp). Those 8 Goblin Warriors would be a moderate challenge - if one takes into account nimble escape (granting advantage on attack roles through hiding and improving AC/HP virutally through hiding) it could go up somewhere between deadly and extreme.Now - 4 2014 Goblins would have been that deadly encounter for 400xp according to the 2014 rules. Even accounting for nimble escape, that would just end up as a medium encounter in my calculations (in my calculations a medium encounter takes away 16% of total party HP). Without nimble escape, 8 2014 Goblins would be a medium to hard encounter, with nimble escape it turns deadly/extreme.So, in my estimate a high difficulty encounter in 2024 takes away roughly between 1/3 to 1/2 of the total party HP - not accounting for superior party strategies. A moderate encounter would take away around 1/4 to 1/5 of total Party HP and a low difficulty encounter would take away on average 1/6 of total party HP.Hit Dice - except for Level 1, give back on average 100% of HP. So lets say, the HP Pool is 190% of total party HP - that is our HP Budget for the new adventuring day. So including short rests, with 2024 a party can endure roughly 3 high difficulty encounters. 6 to 7 moderate encounters or 9 to 10 low encounters.To make it simple:High Difficulty Encounter: 50% HP Party drain.Moderate: 33%Low: 16% Level 1 Budget: 160%Level 2 Budget: 165%Level 3 Budget: 170%...Up to 195%Meaning, if you use the budget up, it will be a total party kill. So, depending on the difficulty one is aming for, you can deduct 30 to 50% from the total budget as your goal budget.The shortest adventuring day could look something like this: High encounter - short rest - High encounter - using up 100% of total party HP. - Not a big problem, Spellcaster would just be doing more heavy lifting than the martial classes ... so the usual problem.A normal 2024 adventuring day for a Level 5 party could look like this:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">3 Moderate (1 moderate = 2 low)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">1 High</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">2 Short Rests</li> </ul></blockquote>

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