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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9782881" data-attributes="member: 93670">You totally skipped over answering the question and only broadened it from &quot;how many times before players start calling the gm unprepared?&quot; to add &quot;and how long before the obvious adversarial arms race results in players feeling like the GM is openly adversarial?&quot;. Both of those questions apply because the players approaching eiya video game play to win mindset are <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="💯" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f4af.png" title="Hundred points&nbsp; &nbsp; :100:" data-shortname=":100:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" />%&nbsp; certain that rest early rest often is expected reasonable and reinforced by wotc's treatment of the issue for over a decade given RAW+RAI of the rulesEdit: before anyone thinks to rightly suggest that the players should be better than that, I'll say that such a declaration is far from reaching the level of being barely useful gm support without solid support in the published rules and community engagement from wotc.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 9782881, member: 93670"] You totally skipped over answering the question and only broadened it from "how many times before players start calling the gm unprepared?" to add "[I]and how long before the obvious adversarial arms race results in players feeling like the GM is openly adversarial?[/I]". Both of those questions apply because the players approaching eiya video game play to win mindset are 💯% certain that rest early rest often is expected reasonable and reinforced by wotc's treatment of the issue for over a decade given RAW+RAI of the rules Edit: before anyone thinks to [I]rightly[/I] suggest that the players should be better than that, I'll say that such a declaration is far from reaching the level of being barely useful gm support without solid support in the published rules and community engagement from wotc. [/QUOTE]

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