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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lord Twig" data-source="post: 7364227" data-attributes="member: 31754">Personally I think the whole non-magic support role is ridiculous. I also think non-magic healing is silly. It's like wanting to be a brain surgeon without surgical tools. "I don't need your science crutch! I can fix his brain with my bare hands and some soothing words!"Magic is what allows dragons to fly. Magic is not a crutch, it is the science of D&D. It is the physics of Faerun.Instead of assault rifles, kevlar armor and night vision googles, D&D fighters have magic swords, rings of protection and goggles of night. Instead of calling in air strikes you have flying wizards throwing fireballs. If someone goes down, instead of a medic using modern medicine to stabilize them before calling for an evac, you have a paladin laying on hands.Don't tell me that instead of a modern medic you can just have your grizzled sergeant yell at you to 'walk it off' and it is just as good.Non-magic rangers are equally ridiculous. Why wouldn't they use magic? It would be like refusing to use a compass to tell direction "because that's cheating". The ultimate survivors would use every tool at their disposal, and magic is just one of those tools.Ultimately I would say if you want to run a non-magic game, D&D is not the system you should be using.</blockquote>