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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 7364542" data-attributes="member: 18">Indeed, good quote, and in fact I'm impressed with how clear the PHB is there on the inherent magic of the D&D world. A shout is not just a shout, in D&D, not necessarily (in fact, not ever, but to varying degrees).What people object to isn't really "magic" in that sense, it's magic in the sense of magic spells or anything resembles a magic spell. But it's easy to escape those latter two. You could be really indirect and never use the word "magic" and still make it clear Warlords were just part of the magical world of D&D. I don't think you need to be explicit, like, calling it magic, just choose your language carefully (I know they have writers capable of this, they just need designers who aren't trapped inside their own mental boxes, which, unfortunately, Mearls is).I seem to recall the 3.XE predecessor of the Warlord had some sort of quasi-magical deal going on without ever being explicitly magic, but I can't remember very well.</blockquote>