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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 7367043" data-attributes="member: 2525">Neither do it for me. Or apparently some meaningful number of other people.It's not just fluff though. There are things the Warlord does (in my mind) which neither class can do. Maybe with a subclass they could though.What the hell is your problem? Serious question. I didn't ask anyone to "stop pushing for a full class". And I didn't "shout down" anything. In fact I wasn't even replying to you to begin with...someone else had asked if there was a third party Warlord that people liked and I mentioned one. I cannot think of a rationale interpretation of my one sentence post which concludes it was an attempt to "shout down" your opinion.I am not satisfied, I'd like a Warlord subclass from WOTC thankyouverymuch. That would be what this thread was about, if you didn't notice. Nobody is holding you back. Me expressing my opinion that I think this can work as a subclass is not mutually exclusive with you expressing your opinion that you want it as a full class. I have no idea why my mentioning my preference takes anything away from you mentioning your preference, but it seems bizarre and over the top.  Why are you so bugged I want something different?I actually WANT it as a subclass...not "settling" it's my actual desire. And I certainly am not a 4e hater! I was the guy who probably took some of the most heat for promoting 4e. I made an infamous prediction about how it was going to crush the competition and everyone was going to change over and Paizo was doomed. And now I am a "4e hater" because I want something as a subclass instead of a full class?Maybe take the outrage down a notch?</blockquote>

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