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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 7373317" data-attributes="member: 6795602"><p>You have 5 levels worth of abilities over all 20 levels of fighter to introduce war lord abilities. On top of that there is definitely a certain power level that would be too much for those abilities. On top of that most of the warlord abilities need to be gained fairly early in the fighters career or playing whatever it is will not feel much like a warlord but a fighter with 1 party focused ability. I have reasons for why I think the subclass design space is insufficient. Do you have reasons for why you think it is?</p><p></p><p>Purple Dragon Knight has the right kind of abilities (maybe a bit wrong on the flavor but meh, lets talk mechanics). He gets an ability that lets him heal allies! Awesome. He gets an ability that grants attacks. Heck, he even gets the ability to have an ally make a saving throw reroll. Who has almost all the abilities everyone wants a Warlord to have. The problem? He doesn't feel like he heals enough, he doesn't feel like he grants attacks early enough and the amount he can grant is so miniscule. Same thing with saving throw rerolls. </p><p></p><p>Unless you are telling me that it's okay for the new warlord subclass to greatly exceed the purple dragon knight in power I don't see where a fighter warlord subclass can give enough and give enough early on in your career to make you feel like you are playing a warlord.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 7373317, member: 6795602"] You have 5 levels worth of abilities over all 20 levels of fighter to introduce war lord abilities. On top of that there is definitely a certain power level that would be too much for those abilities. On top of that most of the warlord abilities need to be gained fairly early in the fighters career or playing whatever it is will not feel much like a warlord but a fighter with 1 party focused ability. I have reasons for why I think the subclass design space is insufficient. Do you have reasons for why you think it is? Purple Dragon Knight has the right kind of abilities (maybe a bit wrong on the flavor but meh, lets talk mechanics). He gets an ability that lets him heal allies! Awesome. He gets an ability that grants attacks. Heck, he even gets the ability to have an ally make a saving throw reroll. Who has almost all the abilities everyone wants a Warlord to have. The problem? He doesn't feel like he heals enough, he doesn't feel like he grants attacks early enough and the amount he can grant is so miniscule. Same thing with saving throw rerolls. Unless you are telling me that it's okay for the new warlord subclass to greatly exceed the purple dragon knight in power I don't see where a fighter warlord subclass can give enough and give enough early on in your career to make you feel like you are playing a warlord. [/QUOTE]
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