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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 5608156" data-attributes="member: 2067">You could always pay me! I promise roughly equivalent service, two years earlier, with the added bonus of knowing exactly where your money is going! Namely, my next meal, since I am poverty-stricken. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Personally, I'd basically agree with the &quot;too abstract&quot; thing for FATE, but you can ground them a little harder for D&amp;D. Each d20 roll in combat means a specific attack. Each d20 roll in a social interaction could mean a specific argument made to persuade. Like, &quot;I kill him with my sword,&quot; you could say, &quot;I try to persuade him with my diplomacy!&quot;, and then you could &quot;hit&quot; or &quot;miss&quot; and you'd have &quot;damage&quot; which would tell you how persuasive you were if you hit. Once you reduced your opponent's points to 0, they're persuaded, but it will take more than one diplomatic argument, and more tricks than a few skill checks could give you, in order to keep it interesting over a semi-long-term (say, half an hour or so of actual play time).Those individual tricks could be similar to the aspects of FATE, but be more related to your character. So Lidda might have a Back-Ally Threats ability to use with her Intimidate that gives enemies a -2 to their Willpower so that future persuasions are more often effective. She has this because she's a rogue, and so can have that special ability.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 5608156, member: 2067"] You could always pay me! I promise roughly equivalent service, two years earlier, with the added bonus of knowing exactly where your money is going! Namely, my next meal, since I am poverty-stricken. :) Personally, I'd basically agree with the "too abstract" thing for FATE, but you can ground them a little harder for D&D. Each d20 roll in combat means a specific attack. Each d20 roll in a social interaction could mean a specific argument made to persuade. Like, "I kill him with my sword," you could say, "I try to persuade him with my diplomacy!", and then you could "hit" or "miss" and you'd have "damage" which would tell you how persuasive you were if you hit. Once you reduced your opponent's points to 0, they're persuaded, but it will take more than one diplomatic argument, and more tricks than a few skill checks could give you, in order to keep it interesting over a semi-long-term (say, half an hour or so of actual play time). Those individual tricks could be similar to the aspects of FATE, but be more related to your character. So Lidda might have a [B]Back-Ally Threats[/B] ability to use with her Intimidate that gives enemies a -2 to their Willpower so that future persuasions are more often effective. She has this because she's a rogue, and so can have that special ability. [/QUOTE]

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