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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 2294966" data-attributes="member: 957"><p>Yes, but if you don't take warforged, then you pretty much can't take any of the organizations, feats, PClasses, etc... that are built around them. Ditto Dragonshards. Ditto changelings and shifters. Ditto the house politics.</p><p></p><p>What I see in FR is a whole bunch of stuff that works completely independently of each other. Can you name a race from the FRCS that has feats which are pretty much unuseable without that race? </p><p></p><p>In fact, I'd say you are mostly wrong to claim that I dislike the specific Eberron elements. The only one I really don't care for is warforged. A fantasy world with an entire race of what amounts to androids doesn't click for me in the slightest. Individually, I like a lot of the other stuff. I'd certainly be open to adding shifters and/or changelings into a game. But I haven't been motivtaed to do so yet. So when a new book comes out with Eberron in the title, I know that some non-zero fraction of the material contained WILL be directly tied to core stuff that makes it non-compatible with games not using that core stuff. The LACK of that restriction is what I see in FR.</p><p></p><p>WD, I think that mostly answers your comment. But I'll point out that I never claimed to speak for anyone other than myself (and if you read carefully you'll even find the word "me" in your quote). If my opinion is not significant to the overall market, then I don't have the slightest issue with that. </p><p></p><p>But, as long as there is some fraction that agree with me, then that is a percentage of the homebrew market that has less to gain from Eberron than from FR. If its 1% then I'm talking silly minutia that isn't worth my time or yours. If its 75% then it could result in the eventual death of the line. I doubt it is anywhere near either of those extremes. So it isn't relevant that Bryon doesn't buy any Eberron for his homebrew and Joe Blow buys every Eberron product that there is for his homebrew. Its the overall average D&D spender that matters in the end.</p><p></p><p>But in the end I'm just offering my personal opinion. And next time it'll be my opinion again, most readers will get that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 2294966, member: 957"] Yes, but if you don't take warforged, then you pretty much can't take any of the organizations, feats, PClasses, etc... that are built around them. Ditto Dragonshards. Ditto changelings and shifters. Ditto the house politics. What I see in FR is a whole bunch of stuff that works completely independently of each other. Can you name a race from the FRCS that has feats which are pretty much unuseable without that race? In fact, I'd say you are mostly wrong to claim that I dislike the specific Eberron elements. The only one I really don't care for is warforged. A fantasy world with an entire race of what amounts to androids doesn't click for me in the slightest. Individually, I like a lot of the other stuff. I'd certainly be open to adding shifters and/or changelings into a game. But I haven't been motivtaed to do so yet. So when a new book comes out with Eberron in the title, I know that some non-zero fraction of the material contained WILL be directly tied to core stuff that makes it non-compatible with games not using that core stuff. The LACK of that restriction is what I see in FR. WD, I think that mostly answers your comment. But I'll point out that I never claimed to speak for anyone other than myself (and if you read carefully you'll even find the word "me" in your quote). If my opinion is not significant to the overall market, then I don't have the slightest issue with that. But, as long as there is some fraction that agree with me, then that is a percentage of the homebrew market that has less to gain from Eberron than from FR. If its 1% then I'm talking silly minutia that isn't worth my time or yours. If its 75% then it could result in the eventual death of the line. I doubt it is anywhere near either of those extremes. So it isn't relevant that Bryon doesn't buy any Eberron for his homebrew and Joe Blow buys every Eberron product that there is for his homebrew. Its the overall average D&D spender that matters in the end. But in the end I'm just offering my personal opinion. And next time it'll be my opinion again, most readers will get that. [/QUOTE]
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