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<blockquote data-quote="Irda Ranger" data-source="post: 3981435" data-attributes="member: 1003">They're not balanced against each other. They are effective at what they do and complimentary actors in a typical published encounter (and within the DMG encounter design guidelines).&nbsp; There's a subtle difference.&nbsp; A Defender to hold off the baddies; a Striker to take out the big target; a Controller to clear out the trash; a Leader to keep it all organized.&nbsp; No one is supposed to be more important than the others, but it's a little apples-to-oranges unless you can convert everyone's contributions to the group into a single currency (usually HP).&nbsp; What is the Leader's +2 to Att, Morale bonus worth in average HP/round?&nbsp; WotC can't know what without knowing who's making the attack and for how much damage, etc., which cannot be well predicted.But in theory, D+L+S+C &gt; (D,L,S,C)*4A well balanced group (PC's or monsters) should (in theory, on average) beat a group of any four persons chosen at random.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Irda Ranger, post: 3981435, member: 1003"] They're not balanced against each other. They are effective at what they do and complimentary actors in a typical published encounter (and within the DMG encounter design guidelines). There's a subtle difference. A Defender to hold off the baddies; a Striker to take out the big target; a Controller to clear out the trash; a Leader to keep it all organized. No one is supposed to be more important than the others, but it's a little apples-to-oranges unless you can convert everyone's contributions to the group into a single currency (usually HP). What is the Leader's +2 to Att, Morale bonus worth in average HP/round? WotC can't know what without knowing who's making the attack and for how much damage, etc., which cannot be well predicted. But in theory, D+L+S+C > (D,L,S,C)*4 A well balanced group (PC's or monsters) should (in theory, on average) beat a group of any four persons chosen at random. [/QUOTE]

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