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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 7672336" data-attributes="member: 1465">I agree that Ki could be the closest thing to psionics at the moment as a &quot;source&quot;, but unfortunately there is a significant gap between the concept/flavor of a Monk and the concept/flavor of a Psion. The two COULD definitely be the same thing in a modern or sci-fisetting, but I don't think this could ever be a general case. The Monk is anyway way too martial by default, while a Psion could be often pretty much the opposite in a lot of settings, i.e. someone who doesn't need to fight or would fight very poorly. Yes, you COULD have a fantastic Monk/Psion character, but to make that the default would be a huge mistake. This means for example that you can't make the Psion a subclass of the Monk, otherwise it will always be only a martial Psion, and you won't have all the other non-martial Psion character options in your game.On the other hand, making the Psion a subclass of the Wizard would be perhaps totally useless. Probably just a cocktail between Enchanter, Diviner and maybe Illusionist, which is something you can already do in a variety of way, just pick the right spells and re-flavor your character as &quot;I don't learn spells from books, they just come from my mind&quot;. Actually, the main obstacle to remove would be spells components: if your powers come from the mind, then you definitely should never need your voice, your hands or external ingredients to use them.That said, I don't think we need more than one Psion class, not even in a psionics-heavy campaign. Rather, it would be much better if the mechanics of psionics (granted by the Psion class for sure, but possibly also to other non-Psion characters by feats, racial abilities or even other classes' subclasses) would smoothly work when multiclassing. So then you could have your Monk/Psion, Fighter/Psion, Wizard/Psion or everything you want, instead of having many psionics classes.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 7672336, member: 1465"] I agree that Ki could be the closest thing to psionics at the moment as a "source", but unfortunately there is a significant gap between the concept/flavor of a Monk and the concept/flavor of a Psion. The two COULD definitely be the same thing in a [I]modern[/I] or [I]sci-fi[/I]setting, but I don't think this could ever be a general case. The Monk is anyway way too martial by default, while a Psion could be often pretty much the opposite in a lot of settings, i.e. someone who doesn't need to fight or would fight very poorly. Yes, you COULD have a fantastic Monk/Psion character, but to make that the [I]default [/I]would be a huge mistake. This means for example that you can't make the Psion a subclass of the Monk, otherwise it will always be only a martial Psion, and you won't have all the other non-martial Psion character options in your game. On the other hand, making the Psion a subclass of the Wizard would be perhaps totally useless. Probably just a cocktail between Enchanter, Diviner and maybe Illusionist, which is something you can already do in a variety of way, just pick the right spells and re-flavor your character as "I don't learn spells from books, they just come from my mind". Actually, the main obstacle to remove would be [I]spells components[/I]: if your powers come from the [B][I]mind[/I][/B], then you definitely should never need your [I]voice[/I], your [I]hands[/I] or external [I]ingredients[/I] to use them. That said, I don't think we need more than one Psion class, not even in a psionics-heavy campaign. Rather, it would be much better if the mechanics of psionics (granted by the Psion class for sure, but possibly also to other non-Psion characters by feats, racial abilities or even other classes' subclasses) would smoothly work when multiclassing. So then you could have your Monk/Psion, Fighter/Psion, Wizard/Psion or everything you want, instead of having many psionics classes. [/QUOTE]

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