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<blockquote data-quote="tomBitonti" data-source="post: 7673115" data-attributes="member: 13107">Illithids definitely have changes between editions.Expedition to the Barrier Peaks, 1E, the sci-fi crashed space ship module, had one trapped between decks because of an interaction with the ships fields during probability travel.&nbsp; (Or something like that.)&nbsp; They had a very alien feel, and somewhat sci-fi, but no really a link to to far realms.&nbsp; But, they set the basic feel for psionics as being alien and sci-fi-ish.&nbsp; The module also had an intellect devourer.2E seemed to place Illithids firmly in the material verse, with Penumbra, and a long vanquished plane spanning empire.&nbsp; The Illithid origin and home planet are not described.I don't think the &quot;back from the future&quot; story arose until 3E re-interpreted the Illithid back story, I thought in &quot;Lords of Madness&quot;.&nbsp; I didn't care much for the re-interpretation.&nbsp; Did it get much traction as canon?3E Eberron did place Illithids in Xoriat, the plane of chaos, which could be taken as an Eberron Far Realm equivelent.I never found there to be much of a immediate link of Psionics with the Far Realms.&nbsp; But, there is a useful functional link: Psionics is presented as being &quot;different&quot; or &quot;alien&quot;, so it works as a tool for far reams creatures.To say: D&amp;D did have science fiction elements in the core game.&nbsp; This goes back Arneson's &quot;Blackmoor&quot; campaign setting, which included a crashed space ship.&nbsp; However, that branch of the game seems to have largely withered.&nbsp; See &quot;Blackmoor&quot; and the DA series of modules, especially, &quot;The City of the Gods&quot;.Thx!TomB</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tomBitonti, post: 7673115, member: 13107"] Illithids definitely have changes between editions. Expedition to the Barrier Peaks, 1E, the sci-fi crashed space ship module, had one trapped between decks because of an interaction with the ships fields during probability travel. (Or something like that.) They had a very alien feel, and somewhat sci-fi, but no really a link to to far realms. But, they set the basic feel for psionics as being alien and sci-fi-ish. The module also had an intellect devourer. 2E seemed to place Illithids firmly in the material verse, with Penumbra, and a long vanquished plane spanning empire. The Illithid origin and home planet are not described. I don't think the "back from the future" story arose until 3E re-interpreted the Illithid back story, I thought in "Lords of Madness". I didn't care much for the re-interpretation. Did it get much traction as canon? 3E Eberron did place Illithids in Xoriat, the plane of chaos, which could be taken as an Eberron Far Realm equivelent. I never found there to be much of a immediate link of Psionics with the Far Realms. But, there is a useful functional link: Psionics is presented as being "different" or "alien", so it works as a tool for far reams creatures. To say: D&D did have science fiction elements in the core game. This goes back Arneson's "Blackmoor" campaign setting, which included a crashed space ship. However, that branch of the game seems to have largely withered. See "Blackmoor" and the DA series of modules, especially, "The City of the Gods". Thx! TomB [/QUOTE]

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