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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7673283" data-attributes="member: 22779">But, since we do have a precedent here with the Sorc, Warlock and Cleric, it's maybe not as hard to make a psionicist pick its subclass at level one.&nbsp; Why not add level one psionic subclasses to the base archetypes (say Bard, Sorc and Wizard).&nbsp; Because, in my mind, the warlock certainly paves the way for this.&nbsp; Granted a warlock's spells are all &quot;magic&quot;, but their source is very, very different.&nbsp; Which Otherworldly Patron you pick for your Warlock should greatly change the look and feel of a given warlock.&nbsp; You get a pretty different suite of abilities at level one and I would hope that players would create characters that are very different based on their Patron.Perhaps it's not as much of a challenge as you think Rem.&nbsp; Why couldn't you have three subclasses, Psion, Wilder and Soulknife, placed under the aegis of Wizard, Sorcerer and Bard, which gives the basic framework for powers - when do you receive spells and whatnot, and then have the subclasses filter out some of the base class' underpinnings - so a Soul Knife loses instrument proficiencies but gains proficiency in something else.&nbsp; Bardic inspiration gets reflavored as a mental buff thingie.&nbsp; Keep the spell progression and weapon proficiencies and all you have to do is come up with a new disciplines list (which I think everyone agrees is needed) and we're good to go.&nbsp; It seems to fit the bill to me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7673283, member: 22779"] But, since we do have a precedent here with the Sorc, Warlock and Cleric, it's maybe not as hard to make a psionicist pick its subclass at level one. Why not add level one psionic subclasses to the base archetypes (say Bard, Sorc and Wizard). Because, in my mind, the warlock certainly paves the way for this. Granted a warlock's spells are all "magic", but their source is very, very different. Which Otherworldly Patron you pick for your Warlock should greatly change the look and feel of a given warlock. You get a pretty different suite of abilities at level one and I would hope that players would create characters that are very different based on their Patron. Perhaps it's not as much of a challenge as you think Rem. Why couldn't you have three subclasses, Psion, Wilder and Soulknife, placed under the aegis of Wizard, Sorcerer and Bard, which gives the basic framework for powers - when do you receive spells and whatnot, and then have the subclasses filter out some of the base class' underpinnings - so a Soul Knife loses instrument proficiencies but gains proficiency in something else. Bardic inspiration gets reflavored as a mental buff thingie. Keep the spell progression and weapon proficiencies and all you have to do is come up with a new disciplines list (which I think everyone agrees is needed) and we're good to go. It seems to fit the bill to me. [/QUOTE]

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