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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 7673415" data-attributes="member: 7635">Bloat is certainly an issue, but WotC seems to be on top of this. Since August, we've had four new races, 20 new spells, and bunch of unplaytested &quot;use at your own discretion&quot; articles. We are NOT seeing monthly releases nor 4-6 new classes this go around. That said, the answer is not to avoid it altogether either. The PHB options will eventually wear thin; growth will need to happen. The issue WotC is attempting to avoid is not &quot;too much&quot; but &quot;too much, too soon.&quot;But really, that's true of ANY rules expansion. Already, the EEPG gives players races that can fly or live underwater, both things the PHB races cannot do. The Favored Soul is generally considered superior to the Draconic/Chaos sorcerers (even if its not overpowered, its much more versatile). Hell, those who use only the Basic document have hit a wall against those with the full PHB. Every addition, no matter how small, is going to silo the haves from the have-nots. Is the only solution then a iconoclast game that never expands or gains a new option?By that logic, the they should have skipped monks, dragonborn, and those other &quot;options&quot; no one played and stuck with just the Basic classes and races. Why waste space on a class like druid only a handful of player's play?Well, because it means something to the player who likes monks, dragonborn, druids, psionics, or artificers. They have just as much right to play what they want as the cleric, elf, wizard, and fighter players. That option should be available to them, and it should be done with as much time and respect as those basic classes and races were. Chasing what is popular and culling option is why Hollywood churning out nostalgic and comic-book based action schlock or why dozens of small mom-and-pop resteraunts can't compete against chains like Applebee's. Not everyone's tastes will be the same. Shouldn't those people have the option of an artificer or a psion, and those who dislike said options be allowed to just say &quot;no classes beyond the PHB&quot; if they want?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 7673415, member: 7635"] Bloat is certainly an issue, but WotC seems to be on top of this. Since August, we've had four new races, 20 new spells, and bunch of unplaytested "use at your own discretion" articles. We are NOT seeing monthly releases nor 4-6 new classes this go around. That said, the answer is not to avoid it altogether either. The PHB options will eventually wear thin; growth will need to happen. The issue WotC is attempting to avoid is not "too much" but "too much, too soon." But really, that's true of ANY rules expansion. Already, the EEPG gives players races that can fly or live underwater, both things the PHB races cannot do. The Favored Soul is generally considered superior to the Draconic/Chaos sorcerers (even if its not overpowered, its much more versatile). Hell, those who use only the Basic document have hit a wall against those with the full PHB. Every addition, no matter how small, is going to silo the haves from the have-nots. Is the only solution then a iconoclast game that never expands or gains a new option? By that logic, the they should have skipped monks, dragonborn, and those other "options" no one played and stuck with just the Basic classes and races. Why waste space on a class like druid only a handful of player's play? Well, because it means something to the player who likes monks, dragonborn, druids, psionics, or artificers. They have just as much right to play what they want as the cleric, elf, wizard, and fighter players. That option should be available to them, and it should be done with as much time and respect as those basic classes and races were. Chasing what is popular and culling option is why Hollywood churning out nostalgic and comic-book based action schlock or why dozens of small mom-and-pop resteraunts can't compete against chains like Applebee's. Not everyone's tastes will be the same. Shouldn't those people have the option of an artificer or a psion, and those who dislike said options be allowed to just say "no classes beyond the PHB" if they want? [/QUOTE]

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