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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 7673798" data-attributes="member: 2067">While you could say that clerics and warlocks have the same story, it's important to note that 5e D&amp;D does not say that. They present two distinct and different stories. The story of the cleric might be said to be &quot;My loyalty to a being greater than myself is rewarded with powers that advance both of our interests.&quot;The story of the warlock might be said to be &quot;Something otherworldly has granted me secret power that I can use to further my own interests.&quot; Think of how a celestial warlock is distinct in the narrative from a cleric, or how a death-priest or or trickster-cleric is distinct from a warlock. 5e could have made the choice to combine them, but for reasons (that likely have little to do with these narratives) made them distinct. If the psion is to be distinct, it also needs a narrative that is not the same&nbsp; narrative that the sorcerer already has. The bar for that isn't particularly high, but it's still a thing that needs to be done.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 7673798, member: 2067"] While you could say that clerics and warlocks have the same story, it's important to note that 5e D&D [B]does not say that[/B]. They present two distinct and different stories. The story of the cleric might be said to be "My loyalty to a being greater than myself is rewarded with powers that advance both of our interests." The story of the warlock might be said to be "Something otherworldly has granted me secret power that I can use to further my own interests." Think of how a celestial warlock is distinct in the narrative from a cleric, or how a death-priest or or trickster-cleric is distinct from a warlock. 5e could have made the choice to combine them, but for reasons (that likely have little to do with these narratives) made them distinct. If the psion is to be distinct, it also needs a narrative that is not the same narrative that the sorcerer already has. The bar for that isn't [I]particularly[/I] high, but it's still a thing that needs to be done. [/QUOTE]

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