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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mercule" data-source="post: 7673815" data-attributes="member: 5100">Agreed. This thread makes it pretty clear that you'd alienate half of the people who actually care by making either choice firm. I also agree with your follow-up logic. Even if "psionics are different/same" is moved to a sidebar, whatever AL does is likely to be the de facto "rules as intended".I actually don't mind the sorcerer flavor in 5E (well, except the wild mage, which I don't like in any form). I just think it's odd that they're actually born with spells. It seems odd that someone would have an inherent knowledge of the right words in a foreign language, where to put their hands, and what to be holding. You can make the case that sorcerers are containers for the magic but still need to figure out/learn the trappings to channel it. That opens the door to the idea that they could learn a different way of channeling their born power, which would look a lot like a psion sub-class for sorcerer.Glomming onto something like the Far Realm just to underscore "I'm not a sorcerer" is a very bad idea, IMO. It's artificial and bakes in flavor where you really don't need it. If you grant that the psion has innate power (seems solid) and that power is not entirely dissimilar to other magic (bone of contention, but play along), there really isn't much separating it from sorcerer, thematically, unless you add more fluff on top of the class. A Far Realms sorcerer could serve the "touched by non-patron madness" just as well, mechanically, as building out a 96 page hard-cover.That 96 page hard-cover is my benchmark because that's the size of "Hoard of the Dragon Queen" which seems like the smallest delivery that would make the whole exercise worthwhile. I'd take something bigger, sure. If it's a set of Unearthed Arcana posts, though, we aren't going to see anything more involved than a reskinned sorcerer.If you're correct, and the question Mike's asking is whether or not the psion should be considered self-powered or external, then I fall emphatically on the side of self-powered. I think the rules could be written somewhat neutral on the topic, but I see no external source that could be married to the psion and leave it usable to me (or even recognizable, for that matter). Likewise, I think the rules could be neutral on the question of "psionics is different", but that would require some contortions to keep it balanced (including not underpowered) in both styles. If the decision was inescapable, I'd come down on the side of "psionics are the same", but that's just a vote for what I'd find more useful.</blockquote>

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