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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 7673916" data-attributes="member: 7635">FWIW, I was an advocate for the 15 classes idea, but I can see their justification. Assassin was only a full class in two editions (being a PrC and a kit in 3e and 2e respectively) and really didn't offer much over a the regular rogue class. Same with illusionist; which hadn't been a separate class since 1989. So I guess those two drew the short end on longevity. Warlord to battlemaster was a punt IMHO; they didn't want a martial healer in the PHB. I hope WotC will one day make a proper warlord, btw. Sounds ripe for a UA.Here is my absolute minimums.1.) Psion deserves a base class, period. No core class does it justice without heavy hacking into it and rewriting its mechanics and/or fluff. At the very least, it deserves its own class with its own power list and its own subclasses (representing the disciplines of yore). 2.) It deserves unique capabilities that fit its flavor. (In essence, I don't just want a list of PHB spells with &quot;pretend their psionic&quot; written over them; even if their is overlap (IE: Psionic Charm Person; see PHB XXX) I want them to have unique ones that other caster's don't get.3.) It deserves one unique mechanic on par with warlock invocations or sorcerer metamagic. Something to give the psion his own niche. Now, do I want a unique system for psionics separate from how spells are cast? Yeah, I think that'd be cool. Will I be bummed if the psion looks more like 3.5 than 2e? A bit, but I'll live. The only thing I actively dislike is the idea of some subclass eating all of psionic's history, lore, and powers and tell me &quot;be a regular spellcaster and pretend its psionics.&quot; I can do that now, I don't need WotC to give me that. I need WotC to give me a proper psion class and powers, since that is the harder route.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 7673916, member: 7635"] FWIW, I was an advocate for the 15 classes idea, but I can see their justification. Assassin was only a full class in two editions (being a PrC and a kit in 3e and 2e respectively) and really didn't offer much over a the regular rogue class. Same with illusionist; which hadn't been a separate class since 1989. So I guess those two drew the short end on longevity. Warlord to battlemaster was a punt IMHO; they didn't want a martial healer in the PHB. I hope WotC will one day make a proper warlord, btw. Sounds ripe for a UA. Here is my absolute minimums. 1.) Psion deserves a base class, period. No core class does it justice without heavy hacking into it and rewriting its mechanics and/or fluff. At the very least, it deserves its own class with its own power list and its own subclasses (representing the disciplines of yore). 2.) It deserves unique capabilities that fit its flavor. (In essence, I don't just want a list of PHB spells with "pretend their psionic" written over them; even if their is overlap (IE: Psionic Charm Person; see PHB XXX) I want them to have unique ones that other caster's don't get. 3.) It deserves one unique mechanic on par with warlock invocations or sorcerer metamagic. Something to give the psion his own niche. Now, do I want a unique system for psionics separate from how spells are cast? Yeah, I think that'd be cool. Will I be bummed if the psion looks more like 3.5 than 2e? A bit, but I'll live. The only thing I actively dislike is the idea of some subclass eating all of psionic's history, lore, and powers and tell me "be a regular spellcaster and pretend its psionics." I can do that now, I don't need WotC to give me that. I need WotC to give me a proper psion class and powers, since that is the harder route. [/QUOTE]

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