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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7673930" data-attributes="member: 996">In 4e, psionics appeared in Dark Sun and the PH3.  They were core only because WotC had this 'everything is core' conceit going at the time (a sort of marketing ploy that I don't think really fooled anyone).  Psionics was it's own Source, the Monk was integrated into it because a Ki source was politically incorrect or they couldn't come up with a psi striker or something.  There was no 'psionics is magic' option, per se.  But, even in 4e, psionics was mechanically a little different, and a little broken:  instead of encounter attack powers, the 3 non-Monk psionic classes got power points that they could use to 'Augment' an at-will.  The net result was pretty similar to having encounter powers.  Where it broke was that you were supposed to re-train your at-wills for 'better' higher-level powers, but a few 1st level powers turned out to consistently have the best augments (mainly an issue with the Psion, IIRC). A sorcerer sub-class as a psionic isn't downright anti-psionic, "no psionics in D&D ever, because they're science fiction and have no place in it," that's anti-psionic.'Psionics-is-magic should be an option' or 'psionic sub-classes would be better than nothing' is still pro-psionic, I hope.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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