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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 7674037" data-attributes="member: 19675">Even though I really like Psionics, I never had much use for the Ardent and Lurk as distinct classes.  I liked the Divine Mind because of the mechanic of the Psionic auras- something I always felt had merit.  But thematically, neither the Ardent or DM as Psions sourcing their psi from the divine made much sense to me.  It seemed...it seemed like the combination of divine (outside) sourcing of psi (internal power) were in logical conflict.Better, IMHO, to have the classes remain purely internal in their Psi, and have them be drawn to serve their faiths' hierarchies just like other, non-divine classes are free to do.The one exception I could see is that I think it is entirely within the scope of the internal logic of a divinely fervent Psionic manifester to be able to "flavor" their powers with a bit of divine energy through a holy symbol, probably via a feat.The lurk role I saw as something that could have been handled via the Soulknife- possibly with a modest rewrite.  And both, I felt, could work as modified PsyWars.  Like I (think I) said, Hyperconscious was a well-done take on Psi, and I personally found it indispensable for inclusion in 3.5Ed's handling of psi.  Ditto dragon #341 (as I recall), which did a better job of enhancing the Soulknife than CompPsi did by miles.</blockquote>