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<blockquote data-quote="Shasarak" data-source="post: 7519217" data-attributes="member: 94143"><p>A 7th level Magic-User only has 10 spells per day soI guess yes they could Fly and Fireball in the same day. But reliably having scrolls and wands to use, no I dont think you can draw that conclusion especially if you look at the random treasure tables you have a 4% chance of a wand.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If Conan is mowing them down then I can only assume that they must be 1-1 HD at most, furry goblins if anything.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I can not say that I have ever GMed ADnD. The only games that I have run was when I was the DM so maybe that was the problem, playing a different version of the game?</p><p></p><p>In any case, yes in both of our versions of our games you have different types of monsters although I do remember a version where you could mow down swarms of 1hp Liches </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I wonder if that is more to do with Fiction not translating accurately between a Story and a Game. Would we expect to see a 5 round ADnD fight written in a story blow for blow exactly as it played out? Doubtful. Would we expect to see a Conan 1 hit KO of a Lich play out the same way in a 1 minute per round ADnD fight? Doubtful.</p><p></p><p>Would you expect them to be the same? Not reasonably. Gary and Dave never sat down to try and directly translate a story into game form after all.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I would imagine that it is up to the Players to decide how the game plays out.</p><p></p><p>I must admit that it often baffles me when I see complaints about Magic Users being able to "impact" the fiction with their spells what one expects a Fighter to do in a similar situation? If a Magic User casts Fly then does a Fighter get to literally pull themselves up by their boot straps Baron Munchausen style?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shasarak, post: 7519217, member: 94143"] A 7th level Magic-User only has 10 spells per day soI guess yes they could Fly and Fireball in the same day. But reliably having scrolls and wands to use, no I dont think you can draw that conclusion especially if you look at the random treasure tables you have a 4% chance of a wand. If Conan is mowing them down then I can only assume that they must be 1-1 HD at most, furry goblins if anything. I can not say that I have ever GMed ADnD. The only games that I have run was when I was the DM so maybe that was the problem, playing a different version of the game? In any case, yes in both of our versions of our games you have different types of monsters although I do remember a version where you could mow down swarms of 1hp Liches I wonder if that is more to do with Fiction not translating accurately between a Story and a Game. Would we expect to see a 5 round ADnD fight written in a story blow for blow exactly as it played out? Doubtful. Would we expect to see a Conan 1 hit KO of a Lich play out the same way in a 1 minute per round ADnD fight? Doubtful. Would you expect them to be the same? Not reasonably. Gary and Dave never sat down to try and directly translate a story into game form after all. I would imagine that it is up to the Players to decide how the game plays out. I must admit that it often baffles me when I see complaints about Magic Users being able to "impact" the fiction with their spells what one expects a Fighter to do in a similar situation? If a Magic User casts Fly then does a Fighter get to literally pull themselves up by their boot straps Baron Munchausen style? [/QUOTE]
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