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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Parmandur" data-source="post: 7519498" data-attributes="member: 6780330">That's a genre preference, really: I don't want max level characters who feel no fear when being surrounded and outnumbered, or who cannot be flummoxed by social and environmental limitations.There is a certain exaggeration of how the 5E system works here. For the CR 20 cellar door, the 12 dex Level 1 Fighter with thieves tools from his Background will have to roll a 17 or higher. The Level 11 Rogue with 18 Dex and Expertise in thieves tool will not have to roll, because she can't roll lower than 20 (no critical failures or successes in 5E Skills, Reliable Taken means the lowest possible base roll is 10). There is a very real difference in the narrative capabilities of pow and high level 5E PCs, it just isn't the same huge range of 4E. For you, that may be a con,for me it is a pro.</blockquote>