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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 7522735" data-attributes="member: 48965">Yes said as much in another post.But anyone who has ritual casting is a caster...Eh, then he probably doesn't leverage rituals well.&nbsp; There were plenty of 3.x tables with fighters and wizards who never saw the linear/quadratic issue... does that mean it didn't exist?Where in what you quoted am I saying that.&nbsp; The fact that 4e has skill challenges which have DC's set without concern for fiction but in a purely gamist manner means they can't play the exact same.&nbsp; It seems instead of you taking what I actually posted and responding to it you're trying to define a much broader argument and assign it to me and then argue against that... no deal.The procedure is the same the only difference is that one list is from a more granular, level based list of DC's and the other is a much broader list encompassing all levels. I just gave two differences above... they just aren't your differences.&nbsp; You see I can disagree with the differences you think exist between the games and still think the games have differences.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 7522735, member: 48965"] Yes said as much in another post. But anyone who has ritual casting is a caster... Eh, then he probably doesn't leverage rituals well. There were plenty of 3.x tables with fighters and wizards who never saw the linear/quadratic issue... does that mean it didn't exist? Where in what you quoted am I saying that. The fact that 4e has skill challenges which have DC's set without concern for fiction but in a purely gamist manner means they can't play the exact same. It seems instead of you taking what I actually posted and responding to it you're trying to define a much broader argument and assign it to me and then argue against that... no deal. The procedure is the same the only difference is that one list is from a more granular, level based list of DC's and the other is a much broader list encompassing all levels. I just gave two differences above... they just aren't your differences. You see I can disagree with the differences you think exist between the games and still think the games have differences. [/QUOTE]

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