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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 7523333" data-attributes="member: 48965">Yes it is based on play experience (could have sworn I answered this already... maybe more than once).  I played a wizard/swordmage hybrid ritual caster.  And was able to influence the fiction in more decisive and broader ways than the martial PC's in the game.An auto-success vs having to roll for a skill... got it.  Don't casters also get to declare actions just like martials?  So they have the ability to shape the out come through bith auto-successes and action declarations... and if those action declarations or auto-successes are the key ones then it is the caster PC who has driven things (not sure what the point of this was on the end of your statement as it applies to martial and casters equally.).One disconnect I'm having in discussing this with you is you seem to be framing the discussion around skill challenges but what about overcoming simple obstacles or not so simple obstacles that require action declarations?  DO these not exist in your game because they are a part of 4e and I would say judging from published adventures and the advice in the DMG more  common in gameplay than skill challenges... yet they are absent from your discussion on rituals and caster effectiveness.Skill challenegs are not the same as setting a DC for a challenge in 4e or 5e I think you are confusing the two.  In a SC the DC's are predetermined by the level and complexity of the skill challenge not by the actual capabilities, hazards, objects etc in the SC.  Gamist refers to the fact that SC DC's (again you are confusing the procedures for the two as they are different in 4e) have their DC's set independently of the fiction but instead based on the challenge and complexity a DM wants the skill challenge to present to the players... then DC's a re assigned from those provided to the relevant fiction.Why does taking on the mantle of god of pain and imprisonment along with being an "Eternal Defender" have anything to do with one's ability to sway Yan-C-Bin or the maruts through intimidation?  Simple answer, because you decided it was a feasible action declaration in your game.  It really is that simple.What Epic Boons or Alternative Rewards does the fighter have?</blockquote>

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