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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 7086951" data-attributes="member: 6704184"><p>I have to wonder what usage of "punk" you're using, here. </p><p></p><p>Seems to me Eberron is inarguably some manner of "punk", because one usage of the term is simply a type of speculative fiction that takes a time period or zeitgeist and extrapolates it beyond its original context. Ie, steampunk is a spec/fic genre which takes steam tech (and tech that is tied to it in the common imagination) and the Victorian zeitgeist, and extrapolates it to a "futuristic" vision. </p><p></p><p>Eberron does the same with the idea of magic as something that is scientifically quantifiable. </p><p></p><p>Punk can also mean a type of futurism, and can even be used specifically to refer to a type of *science fiction*, but it doesn't have to be. </p><p></p><p>Steam, OTOH, would directly contradict a core pillar of Eberron's conceptual structure. That is, the idea that this is a world wherein magic *replaces* technology, rather than being at odds with it, or enhancing it, etc. in Eberron, the steam engine is a mechanical construct powered by a bound elemental, or something of similarly *magical* nature. </p><p></p><p>Thus Keith Baker's resistance to the inclusion of guns, even magical guns, in the setting. For Keith, it is a world in which the gun is replaced by the eternal wand, the cannon by the siege staff, the tank by the Warforged Titan. He has even talked recently in the podcast manifest.zone (yes, that is really the URL) about how wands that anyone can use are probably not that far away, at which point warfare changes again.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 7086951, member: 6704184"] I have to wonder what usage of "punk" you're using, here. Seems to me Eberron is inarguably some manner of "punk", because one usage of the term is simply a type of speculative fiction that takes a time period or zeitgeist and extrapolates it beyond its original context. Ie, steampunk is a spec/fic genre which takes steam tech (and tech that is tied to it in the common imagination) and the Victorian zeitgeist, and extrapolates it to a "futuristic" vision. Eberron does the same with the idea of magic as something that is scientifically quantifiable. Punk can also mean a type of futurism, and can even be used specifically to refer to a type of *science fiction*, but it doesn't have to be. Steam, OTOH, would directly contradict a core pillar of Eberron's conceptual structure. That is, the idea that this is a world wherein magic *replaces* technology, rather than being at odds with it, or enhancing it, etc. in Eberron, the steam engine is a mechanical construct powered by a bound elemental, or something of similarly *magical* nature. Thus Keith Baker's resistance to the inclusion of guns, even magical guns, in the setting. For Keith, it is a world in which the gun is replaced by the eternal wand, the cannon by the siege staff, the tank by the Warforged Titan. He has even talked recently in the podcast manifest.zone (yes, that is really the URL) about how wands that anyone can use are probably not that far away, at which point warfare changes again. [/QUOTE]
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