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<blockquote data-quote="buzz" data-source="post: 3173535" data-attributes="member: 6777">Or you could argue: Why not give people a complete ruleset they can subtract from as they please, rather than an incomplete ruleset they, by definition, need to add to in order to run the game at all?All you're talking about here is preference. Why bog this discussion down in yet another debate about the merits of &quot;lite&quot; vs. &quot;heavy&quot;? All I care about is &quot;good,&quot; and I don't think that's going to come from throwing the baby out with the bathwater.Also, your average lover of Gamism is going to want a robust system with meaningful tactical choices. The more floaty and &quot;lite,&quot; the more their interest in the system potentially drops.* As for those who crave Sim, it all depends on what and how they're Sim-ing.* Savage Worlds probably disproves this, though its skill system, IIRC, isn't anywhere near as simple as Mearls' idea or C&amp;C.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="buzz, post: 3173535, member: 6777"] Or you could argue: Why not give people a complete ruleset they can subtract from as they please, rather than an incomplete ruleset they, by definition, need to add to in order to run the game at all? All you're talking about here is preference. Why bog this discussion down in yet another debate about the merits of "lite" vs. "heavy"? All I care about is "good," and I don't think that's going to come from throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Also, your average lover of Gamism is going to want a robust system with meaningful tactical choices. The more floaty and "lite," the more their interest in the system potentially drops.* As for those who crave Sim, it all depends on what and how they're Sim-ing. * [i]Savage Worlds[/i] probably disproves this, though its skill system, IIRC, isn't anywhere near as simple as Mearls' idea or C&C. [/QUOTE]

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