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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 4034586" data-attributes="member: 18280">Discussions of the Gleemax TOU seem to imply that, even when basic facts are pointed out, people's emotional states will cause them to believe otherwise.  After quoting the section of the TOU that say, quite clearly, that you grant Wizards the right to trademark, copyright, patent, etc., anything you post there, there are still responses that say that the TOU do not say what they say (apparently including the quoted part).Poster 1:  You should give serious thought to these TOU, Poster 2. (diplomacy roll: 1.) Poster 2:  Never! Poster 1:  But think of what liabilities you are risking by agreeing to them!  After all, you can still post on EN World without the same risks, am I right? (Diplomacy Roll: 1.) Poster 2: Your astute observations mean nothing to me!  I refuse to examine the TOU! Poster 1:  But, the truth of the situation is, according to the TOU, which I will quote for you and link to you, that once you post something on Gleemax you have given WotC the right to trademark, patent, and/or copyright it, and to sell or sublicense those trademarks, patents, and/or copyrights.  If WotC (or their sublicensees) uses material that you posted which was third party material (for example, running a Goodman Games module on the digital game table), you become liable for all WotC's legal costs, as well as any royalties or awards arising from WotC's usage of that material.  Moreover, there is no way to challenge WotC according to these TOU if you believe they are being used unfairly!  You cannot revoke them, and both the rights they grant WotC and the liability they give you are permanent!  Plus, it is clear that you are not stupid, suicidal or insane! (Diplomacy Roll: 1.) Poster 2:  I must continue to resist because of your bad rolls!  I will also insult you and ask that you stop pointing out this problem!Actually, on further examination, I think that this sort of mechanic would accurately simulate the vast majority of human social interactions.RC</blockquote>

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