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<blockquote data-quote="Storyteller01" data-source="post: 4314472" data-attributes="member: 20931"><p>Which is what everyone else has done since the beginning of time. Cars, architecure, art, electronics, weapons, and pretty much everything else that has been invented has gone through this. It's just how things work.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't fault the wotc for GSL. It didn't kill OGL. And I can't really fault wotc bid for game control as survival (regardless of rumors, stocks have fallen). But in the end I think wotc, through the GSL and marketing practices, just dealt the death blow to d20 if not D&D. </p><p></p><p>They're willing to under cut LGS for immediate profits from larger companies such as B&N as well as Amazon. The latter selling the books at a 55% discount from retail, the former not relying on it for survival and still selling at a discount most LGS can't match. Those who sell first and cheapest get the customers, and both companies have proven through early releases that they don't fear wotc's or small business reprisals from the RPG community.</p><p></p><p>After that, you consider the illegal spread of free scanned books on-line, and a willingness to have a free book as opposed to supporting the games stores. Gaming and hobbies stores will move elsewhere. An example, our FLGS is contemplating removing roleplaying from their stock all together. They make 20 times as much selling GW products per month than they do RP products. This is exacerbated by friends telling potential customers 'dude, I have that on PDF. i'll send you a copy later". </p><p></p><p>Once LGS stop selling, what's left to advertise the product? It's word of mouth, as most products will be sold on-line or buryied in a book store. Word of mouth alone will not sell D&D. It isn't vital enough for most peoples life to remian in the forfront of their minds, especially with a possible recession coming.</p><p></p><p>If we can't afford to carry 4th ed, why would we consider carrying OGL, or even GSL, something that regularly sells less than D&D itself by simple advangtages of time in the market and a bigger production budget?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Storyteller01, post: 4314472, member: 20931"] Which is what everyone else has done since the beginning of time. Cars, architecure, art, electronics, weapons, and pretty much everything else that has been invented has gone through this. It's just how things work. I don't fault the wotc for GSL. It didn't kill OGL. And I can't really fault wotc bid for game control as survival (regardless of rumors, stocks have fallen). But in the end I think wotc, through the GSL and marketing practices, just dealt the death blow to d20 if not D&D. They're willing to under cut LGS for immediate profits from larger companies such as B&N as well as Amazon. The latter selling the books at a 55% discount from retail, the former not relying on it for survival and still selling at a discount most LGS can't match. Those who sell first and cheapest get the customers, and both companies have proven through early releases that they don't fear wotc's or small business reprisals from the RPG community. After that, you consider the illegal spread of free scanned books on-line, and a willingness to have a free book as opposed to supporting the games stores. Gaming and hobbies stores will move elsewhere. An example, our FLGS is contemplating removing roleplaying from their stock all together. They make 20 times as much selling GW products per month than they do RP products. This is exacerbated by friends telling potential customers 'dude, I have that on PDF. i'll send you a copy later". Once LGS stop selling, what's left to advertise the product? It's word of mouth, as most products will be sold on-line or buryied in a book store. Word of mouth alone will not sell D&D. It isn't vital enough for most peoples life to remian in the forfront of their minds, especially with a possible recession coming. If we can't afford to carry 4th ed, why would we consider carrying OGL, or even GSL, something that regularly sells less than D&D itself by simple advangtages of time in the market and a bigger production budget? [/QUOTE]
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