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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 9798516" data-attributes="member: 63508">Here's the other problemSTR saving throws PHB spellsArms of HadarEnsnaring StrikeEntangleThunderous SmiteGust of WindWind WallControl WaterEvard's Black TentaclesTsunamiINT saving throws PHB spellsMind SliverPhantasmal ForceSynaptic StaticBefuddlementCHA saving throws PHB spells (a lot of banishment and planar holding spells)BaneAnimal MessengerCalm EmotionsZone of TruthMagic CircleBanishmentBanishing SmiteDispel Evil and GoodPlanar BindingSeemingMagic JarDivine WordForcecageYou see that there aren't many of these spells. And few of them are one monster lists. And by the way the saving throws work arranged on most monsters you can tell that the designers really didn't put as much effort in ensuring that monster were good at strength intelligence or Charisma saving throws. So it is easy to target these weak saves. While most characters having a weak major saves.</blockquote>