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Mike Mearls Twitter Poll: "The druid gets one of the following: Spellcasting | Shapeshifting | Animal companions. Choose."
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<blockquote data-quote="Dualazi" data-source="post: 7095531" data-attributes="member: 6855537"><p>It’s worth noting that this opens up a whole ‘nother bucket of worms, because locking it into a spell effect has ramifications outside the description box. For one, now you have to address if it can be counterspelled or dispelled. Additional concerns include the components of the spell, its poach-ability from other classes (bard in particular), and scaling issues requiring either dozens of spells for each form/benchmark. I really think that the shape-shifting feature works best when it’s hard-baked into the class, it allows for more options in how it’s approached and makes it more protected in its niche.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If wizards had done a better job protecting exclusivity then this might be the case, but it is not at all as such in the present game. Many of the really desirable spells like dispel magic and lesser/greater restoration appear on multiple spell lists, domains and subclasses liberally dip into other classes lists, and you even have half casters like the paladin, ranger, EK and AT to water things down even more. Bless ceases to be a defining spell when tons of people can cast it. You yourself kind of allude to this when you bring up how a nature cleric and druid should play differently, but I don’t feel that they do, at least for where most people play the game (3-11).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dualazi, post: 7095531, member: 6855537"] It’s worth noting that this opens up a whole ‘nother bucket of worms, because locking it into a spell effect has ramifications outside the description box. For one, now you have to address if it can be counterspelled or dispelled. Additional concerns include the components of the spell, its poach-ability from other classes (bard in particular), and scaling issues requiring either dozens of spells for each form/benchmark. I really think that the shape-shifting feature works best when it’s hard-baked into the class, it allows for more options in how it’s approached and makes it more protected in its niche. If wizards had done a better job protecting exclusivity then this might be the case, but it is not at all as such in the present game. Many of the really desirable spells like dispel magic and lesser/greater restoration appear on multiple spell lists, domains and subclasses liberally dip into other classes lists, and you even have half casters like the paladin, ranger, EK and AT to water things down even more. Bless ceases to be a defining spell when tons of people can cast it. You yourself kind of allude to this when you bring up how a nature cleric and druid should play differently, but I don’t feel that they do, at least for where most people play the game (3-11). [/QUOTE]
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