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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ancient Pariah" data-source="post: 1280691" data-attributes="member: 15720">Excellent responses one and all, thank you.  So the consensus is to apply existing rules either perform or bluff. I'm o'k with that.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  For my campaign I will probably use it as it stands with the concept that it will default to either skill, performance or bluff, and apply a modifying attribute of cha, wis, or int.  I am adjustable.Lord Pendragon, I realize that perform applies to other classes.  It just seems to be limited to high charisma characters or those who benefit from large skill point benefits.  I do like bards by the way, but I feel other classes should be allowed to have the opportunity to master a instrument if they want. I can see a Barbarian without a lot of skill points wanting to bang a drum like a kyoto drum player, but being limited to a Charisma benefit of low value.  The image just sticks in my head like a rousing martial beat. The war drums beat and the horde gathers. Boom, boom, boom. The limitations just don't make sense for me, so I will adjust them for my campaign to be based on experience with an instrument that is not restricted by one characteristic. Thank you for your astute opinion, it is always appreciated. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> I guess no one else came across this in the dragon description on the WOTC board?  It makes me wonder if this was part of the original rules and they reduced  or eliminated it for simplicity. I just hate it when rules are partially explained and players want a determination on how it works.</blockquote>

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