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<blockquote data-quote="Pielorinho" data-source="post: 1694051" data-attributes="member: 259">I guess the distinction I would make is between a character that sometimes glories in the spotlight, and a character that hogs the spotlight.&nbsp; The lockpick extraordinaire is a sometimes-glorier:&nbsp; it's not like you're going to get in every fight and say, &quot;Aha!&nbsp; I astound and intimidate the shambling mound by picking this complicated lock in front of it!&nbsp; 45 on my open lock check, suckah!&quot;&nbsp;The monk example I gave earlier, though, is going to outshine every fighter:&nbsp; except when fighting critters immune to stunning, his first successful hit against every creature will almost certainly kill it.&nbsp; If anyone else is playing a melee monkey, they're going to feel upstaged all the time by this guy.&nbsp; Why even bother fighting, they'll think, when this guy is going to be able to handle everyone anyway?&nbsp;Severe minmaxers in a group create another similar problem:&nbsp; since not everyone likes doing the minmax polka, characters will end up with very different power levels.&nbsp; As a DM, I can then choose either to tailor encounters for the non-minmaxers (ensuring that the MMers will whomp the opposition without breaking a sweat) or I can tailor them for the MMers (risking slaughtering the Non-MMers).&nbsp;As I said, a bit of minmaxing is a fun part of the game, but when it goes to extremes, especially when someone finds a way to make their character far more powerful than all the other characters in a majority of scenes, it ends up detracting from the game, IMO.&nbsp;Daniel</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pielorinho, post: 1694051, member: 259"] I guess the distinction I would make is between a character that sometimes glories in the spotlight, and a character that hogs the spotlight. The lockpick extraordinaire is a sometimes-glorier: it's not like you're going to get in every fight and say, "Aha! I astound and intimidate the shambling mound by picking this complicated lock in front of it! 45 on my open lock check, suckah!" The monk example I gave earlier, though, is going to outshine every fighter: except when fighting critters immune to stunning, his first successful hit against every creature will almost certainly kill it. If anyone else is playing a melee monkey, they're going to feel upstaged all the time by this guy. Why even bother fighting, they'll think, when this guy is going to be able to handle everyone anyway? Severe minmaxers in a group create another similar problem: since not everyone likes doing the minmax polka, characters will end up with very different power levels. As a DM, I can then choose either to tailor encounters for the non-minmaxers (ensuring that the MMers will whomp the opposition without breaking a sweat) or I can tailor them for the MMers (risking slaughtering the Non-MMers). As I said, a bit of minmaxing is a fun part of the game, but when it goes to extremes, especially when someone finds a way to make their character far more powerful than all the other characters in a majority of scenes, it ends up detracting from the game, IMO. Daniel [/QUOTE]

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