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<blockquote data-quote="Kzach" data-source="post: 4287178" data-attributes="member: 56189">I'm about to start playing in a new 4e group. One of the players chose a sub-optimal stat allocation and I queried him on it. The DM replied that he shouldn't min/max and it immediately irked me that he said it.Now before I go on, I should say that there is nothing personal about this thread and I totally understand where the DM is coming from, it's just that I realised something about 4e in that moment that made me think.4e is designed for min/maxing.Now, I don't mind this. I'm quite happy to min/max. I'm not a great believer in Rath being a playable character and never have been. The characters are adventurers, they're meant to be uber.But it seems that now I'm on the other side of the fence (I hardly ever play, always a DM) I'm running into the opposite opinion. Which would be fine in a system where sub-optimal characters are still powerful, but in a system that is designed for min/maxing, I believe it's detrimental to the group if you don't.Anyway, I was curious what other people thought so I put it to you, the audience: should min/maxing be encouraged or discouraged in 4e?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kzach, post: 4287178, member: 56189"] I'm about to start playing in a new 4e group. One of the players chose a sub-optimal stat allocation and I queried him on it. The DM replied that he shouldn't min/max and it immediately irked me that he said it. Now before I go on, I should say that there is nothing personal about this thread and I totally understand where the DM is coming from, it's just that I realised something about 4e in that moment that made me think. 4e is designed for min/maxing. Now, I don't mind this. I'm quite happy to min/max. I'm not a great believer in Rath being a playable character and never have been. The characters are adventurers, they're meant to be uber. But it seems that now I'm on the other side of the fence (I hardly ever play, always a DM) I'm running into the opposite opinion. Which would be fine in a system where sub-optimal characters are still powerful, but in a system that is designed for min/maxing, I believe it's detrimental to the group if you don't. Anyway, I was curious what other people thought so I put it to you, the audience: should min/maxing be encouraged or discouraged in 4e? [/QUOTE]

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