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Mind Blank and Telepathic Bond = The Uninformed Barbarian?
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<blockquote data-quote="Felix" data-source="post: 2035006" data-attributes="member: 3929"><p>My contempt for the FAQ comes form Hypersmurf, actually. As far as I'm concerned, I trust him more than the FAQ. And I'm getting a sense of deja vu... have we railed about this before?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Joker didn't do that because he'd gotten tired of banging his head against your wall, so I completely sympathize with him; this is barely worth it. Why? Because I've already said that your point of view is reasonable, and in return you refuse to even acknowledge the possibility that Joker and I have anything worthwhile. Thanks, buddy.</p><p></p><p>Secondly, if you define "Information Gathering" broadly enough, <em>every fraggin spell</em> can gather information. Why? Because when you're walking around living life, every time something changes, you've gained information. "Hey, that's different. Hadn't noticed that before..." and you now have more information than you did.</p><p></p><p><em>Reduce Person</em>: Hey, now that I'm closer to the ground, I can see it clearer, and know more about it.</p><p></p><p><em>Fly</em>: So that's what a thermal feels like!</p><p></p><p><em>Magic Jar</em>: Here's every male wizard's opportunity to feel a woman's monthly pain.</p><p></p><p>Get the point? It's too broad, because everything can fit in there. So what's the problem? Hmmm... could it be that it's</p><p></p><p>?</p><p></p><p>So no, "information gathering" is not a game term. But the circumstances they put it in are too bloody vague for any definition to work properly. So until it's better defined by the powers that be, we're adrifit. What's the solution? Hey, a DM could do what you're doing and bugger Divination. Or they could take 7 minutes to look through all the divination spells and decide for themselves which ones they think <em>Mind Blank</em> defeats. I can tell you that for me, <em>True Strike</em> ain't one of them, and neither is <em>Rary's Telepathic Bond</em>.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It wasn't an afterthought. They talked about it because it's possible to see people in a scrying sensor that are not the target of the spell. Not because it was a redundancy from the Charybdis of "Information Gathering".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Felix, post: 2035006, member: 3929"] My contempt for the FAQ comes form Hypersmurf, actually. As far as I'm concerned, I trust him more than the FAQ. And I'm getting a sense of deja vu... have we railed about this before? Joker didn't do that because he'd gotten tired of banging his head against your wall, so I completely sympathize with him; this is barely worth it. Why? Because I've already said that your point of view is reasonable, and in return you refuse to even acknowledge the possibility that Joker and I have anything worthwhile. Thanks, buddy. Secondly, if you define "Information Gathering" broadly enough, [i]every fraggin spell[/i] can gather information. Why? Because when you're walking around living life, every time something changes, you've gained information. "Hey, that's different. Hadn't noticed that before..." and you now have more information than you did. [i]Reduce Person[/i]: Hey, now that I'm closer to the ground, I can see it clearer, and know more about it. [i]Fly[/i]: So that's what a thermal feels like! [i]Magic Jar[/i]: Here's every male wizard's opportunity to feel a woman's monthly pain. Get the point? It's too broad, because everything can fit in there. So what's the problem? Hmmm... could it be that it's ? So no, "information gathering" is not a game term. But the circumstances they put it in are too bloody vague for any definition to work properly. So until it's better defined by the powers that be, we're adrifit. What's the solution? Hey, a DM could do what you're doing and bugger Divination. Or they could take 7 minutes to look through all the divination spells and decide for themselves which ones they think [i]Mind Blank[/i] defeats. I can tell you that for me, [i]True Strike[/i] ain't one of them, and neither is [i]Rary's Telepathic Bond[/i]. It wasn't an afterthought. They talked about it because it's possible to see people in a scrying sensor that are not the target of the spell. Not because it was a redundancy from the Charybdis of "Information Gathering". [/QUOTE]
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