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Mind Blank and Telepathic Bond = The Uninformed Barbarian?
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<blockquote data-quote="RuminDange" data-source="post: 2035599" data-attributes="member: 5412"><p>True Strike against a Mind Blanked target strangely has never actually come up yet. But it would be blocked based on a short conversation with one of my players last night about this thread. Basically, how do you see a few seconds into the future on someone you doesn't exist (via mind blank) to the divination?</p><p></p><p>Moment of Prescience has never been used as most of the stuff we use is still 3.0. No one wants to buy $90 worth of books when what we got works just fine. I pull stuff out the SRD 3.5 to clarify problems and have pulled some of the spells so far. But no one has this one yet.</p><p></p><p>Foresight, in my groups opinion is very badly worded as well. Bacause of a difference in opinion no one uses it anymore. At least until we rewrite it for a house rule version to clarify it. Technically someone with Foresight would not sense an attack coming from someone with mind blank. Again it is a question of how do you detect what isn't there?</p><p></p><p>True Seeing and See Invisibility do no detect a mind blanked target, as per the group decision at this time. They have used the Mind blank-Invis combo to great effect and so has thier enemies. </p><p></p><p>Tongues, because it works in an area around the target still functions to translate what is heard even if spoken by the mind blanked creature. The spell does the work of translation not by reading the mind of the speaker. </p><p></p><p>Telepathic Bond works with a Mind Blanked target as long as it was placed on the target first. Basically seen as a open port through a firewall kind of thing. Since Telepathic bond cannot influence or read thoughts it was seen as a possible exception. Telepathy items work only with people you know personally IMC so at this time it works though the mind blank as well. Frankly, my group feel that Telepathy is in wrong school of magic as it doesn't really divine anything. It enchants or grants one the ability to project thier own thoughts. If you have a Helm of Telepathy you can tell others something but they cannot respond in like kind without also having a Helm of Telepathy.</p><p></p><p>I agree with Karisdad's interpretation of the way spell is written and the FAQ has clarified, but that doesn't mean it works that way IMC. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p></p><p>Strange question, but and since it is not core or in the SRD, if you have the Magic of Faerun, how would you rule Ghost Harp with Mind Blanked Bard for instance? Another strange divination.</p><p></p><p>RD</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RuminDange, post: 2035599, member: 5412"] True Strike against a Mind Blanked target strangely has never actually come up yet. But it would be blocked based on a short conversation with one of my players last night about this thread. Basically, how do you see a few seconds into the future on someone you doesn't exist (via mind blank) to the divination? Moment of Prescience has never been used as most of the stuff we use is still 3.0. No one wants to buy $90 worth of books when what we got works just fine. I pull stuff out the SRD 3.5 to clarify problems and have pulled some of the spells so far. But no one has this one yet. Foresight, in my groups opinion is very badly worded as well. Bacause of a difference in opinion no one uses it anymore. At least until we rewrite it for a house rule version to clarify it. Technically someone with Foresight would not sense an attack coming from someone with mind blank. Again it is a question of how do you detect what isn't there? True Seeing and See Invisibility do no detect a mind blanked target, as per the group decision at this time. They have used the Mind blank-Invis combo to great effect and so has thier enemies. Tongues, because it works in an area around the target still functions to translate what is heard even if spoken by the mind blanked creature. The spell does the work of translation not by reading the mind of the speaker. Telepathic Bond works with a Mind Blanked target as long as it was placed on the target first. Basically seen as a open port through a firewall kind of thing. Since Telepathic bond cannot influence or read thoughts it was seen as a possible exception. Telepathy items work only with people you know personally IMC so at this time it works though the mind blank as well. Frankly, my group feel that Telepathy is in wrong school of magic as it doesn't really divine anything. It enchants or grants one the ability to project thier own thoughts. If you have a Helm of Telepathy you can tell others something but they cannot respond in like kind without also having a Helm of Telepathy. I agree with Karisdad's interpretation of the way spell is written and the FAQ has clarified, but that doesn't mean it works that way IMC. :D Strange question, but and since it is not core or in the SRD, if you have the Magic of Faerun, how would you rule Ghost Harp with Mind Blanked Bard for instance? Another strange divination. RD [/QUOTE]
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