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Mind Blank - Immune to True Seeing?
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<blockquote data-quote="RuminDange" data-source="post: 1402132" data-attributes="member: 5412"><p>Ok, I'd agree that by making it work against all divination spells is in effect making it very powerful, also allowing for a lot of abuse, and possibly against the intent of the designers. However, consider this form of argument:</p><p></p><p><strong>True Sight:</strong> What does this spell do for the caster against the target? </p><p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p>So that being the case, it grants the caster knowledge about the target's location in a few seconds to better aim his shot and ignores the fact the target may have displacement. That seems like Information Gathering to me.</p><p></p><p><strong>See Invisibly:</strong> likewise without repeating the SRD allows you to determine the location of the target creature. Again that would be Information. </p><p></p><p><strong>True Seeing:</strong> More powerful, but nonetheless still gathering information about the subject, including the alignment on the divine version. </p><p></p><p><strong>Arcane Sight:</strong> Tells you the power of magical aura’s and if the target creature can cast spells and what levels are available. More information gathered.</p><p></p><p><strong>Arcane Eye:</strong> Now this is where you really have to start wondering. </p><p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p>Notice the bold sentence? If the arcane eye sees as you see and you have True sight, See Invisibility, and/or Arcane Sight going then do you now see the mind blanked individual since it sees are you do? If by itself due to being a scrying sensor it cannot see, but it sees as you do and you would be able to see the invisible mind blanked person why can’t the sensor now see due to those spells being in place? </p><p>I’m not trying to be a rules-lawyer or anything of the sort…only repeating the arguments presented to me about the way the spell is written and works. I don’t even play with people that are rules-lawyers, but they do read the rules and take the literal written words into case, and present a good argument about what they reading. If something is written as Mind Blank saying </p><p>Then they expect to stop those spells that gathering any kind of information about them while under mind blank period. Now they would allow a house rule to change this, and they know if they use the tactic all the time, so shall the enemies, they also now they would face a lot more dispelling attacks and disjunctions if they started using this too much since that is what they would do those using it against them. </p><p></p><p>Try explaining how Discern Location still finds the location of a Mind Blanked Creature in 3.0E since I see they corrected it in the 3.5E SRD.</p><p></p><p>RD</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RuminDange, post: 1402132, member: 5412"] Ok, I'd agree that by making it work against all divination spells is in effect making it very powerful, also allowing for a lot of abuse, and possibly against the intent of the designers. However, consider this form of argument: [B]True Sight:[/B] What does this spell do for the caster against the target? [INDENT][/INDENT] So that being the case, it grants the caster knowledge about the target's location in a few seconds to better aim his shot and ignores the fact the target may have displacement. That seems like Information Gathering to me. [B]See Invisibly:[/B] likewise without repeating the SRD allows you to determine the location of the target creature. Again that would be Information. [B]True Seeing:[/B] More powerful, but nonetheless still gathering information about the subject, including the alignment on the divine version. [B]Arcane Sight:[/B] Tells you the power of magical aura’s and if the target creature can cast spells and what levels are available. More information gathered. [B]Arcane Eye:[/B] Now this is where you really have to start wondering. [INDENT][/INDENT] Notice the bold sentence? If the arcane eye sees as you see and you have True sight, See Invisibility, and/or Arcane Sight going then do you now see the mind blanked individual since it sees are you do? If by itself due to being a scrying sensor it cannot see, but it sees as you do and you would be able to see the invisible mind blanked person why can’t the sensor now see due to those spells being in place? I’m not trying to be a rules-lawyer or anything of the sort…only repeating the arguments presented to me about the way the spell is written and works. I don’t even play with people that are rules-lawyers, but they do read the rules and take the literal written words into case, and present a good argument about what they reading. If something is written as Mind Blank saying Then they expect to stop those spells that gathering any kind of information about them while under mind blank period. Now they would allow a house rule to change this, and they know if they use the tactic all the time, so shall the enemies, they also now they would face a lot more dispelling attacks and disjunctions if they started using this too much since that is what they would do those using it against them. Try explaining how Discern Location still finds the location of a Mind Blanked Creature in 3.0E since I see they corrected it in the 3.5E SRD. RD [/QUOTE]
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