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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RuminDange" data-source="post: 1402584" data-attributes="member: 5412">Yeah I might just be, but information whether about your mind or position is information about you. It was a group decision at this time that might be house ruled later if it gets out of hand which it hasn't yet.  As the DM for many years I get feedback from the group on weird stuff like this and go from there.  It is a last ditch use when they do use it as the combination has it's own drawbacks when used in a party enviroment.On another note as well, if I didn't want to be seen or found I would consider that very personal information about me as well and so should be protected by my powerful 8th level spell against some little 2nd level spell or even 1st level spell if someone wanted to detect magic in the area to find me.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> Maybe they made it a little too powerful as written, I myself don't attempt to read the designer's mind and gave up on sage advice a long time ago due to inconsistant and wrong answers on subjects.  I understand that nobody is perfect but the wording as taken no interpretation is required to understand the one sentence that makes it so powerful "as well as information gathering by divination spells or effects".  Whether is spell is cast on or at you or is cast on someone to grant the effect to see makes no difference you should be protected.  The effect of allowing one to see invisible is blocked by the protection of another.  D&D has always favored the defense over the offense.  And when you consider that, abjuration magic is defense, divination although not damaging, is the offense.Yeap read it, but didn't really correct it that well.  Search the messageboards on EnWorld and WOTC a long time about it and got no answer then that cleared it up. So we went with ours as powerful as it may be.Interesting site, thanks for the link to hit, however do you find it strange in the answer that Non-Detection on an Invisibile creature will stop see invisibility from detecting them but Mind Blank won't?   Very strange answer to me.  Mind Blank has always seemed to a more powerful version of Non-detection and the lesser version works to block the line-of-sight detections but Mind Blank won't.  Don't buy it, wouldn't never allow such an illogical conclulsion to stand.  I have to side with my players still....Information, no matter the form is still Informantion, if you can't get it one way (ie though Scrying) then you shouldn't be able to get another way (ie though line-of-sight).And I still wonder, if Line-of-Sight detection spell still can detect you why couldn't an Arcane Eye since it has the same spells in effect on it as you have on you when you cast it and sees as you do?  A loophole around the all powerful mind blank.RD</blockquote>

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