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<blockquote data-quote="Ridley's Cohort" data-source="post: 63116" data-attributes="member: 545">I do not think that all of the effects of True Seeing are necessarily in affecting those he sees.&nbsp; He could be construed as having better senses.If a color blind kobold cast See Color on himself, would he see the Mind Blanked Saruman of the Many Colors as colorful or in black &amp; white? If I have a divination spell that gives me the Alertness feat, does it not work against a Mind Blanked person?&nbsp; Is my hearing less sharp when it comes to his footsteps?If I had a divination spell that explicitly makes a character &quot;completely and totally immune to all illusions&quot; what happens when the Mind Blanked Invisible mage walks by?&nbsp; Is the divination spell gathering information or simply making the illusion ineffective?If you take the extreme view that all divinations completely and totally fail to help gather any information in any form whatsoever, then logically anyone with True Seeing would never be able to see a Mind Blanked person at all, whether invisible or not.&nbsp; After all, True Seeing someone with no auras reveals information does it not?&nbsp; Makes me wonder if a Mind Blanked Clerics prayers can be answered by their god...<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes&nbsp; &nbsp; :rolleyes:"&nbsp; data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> The real problem is the phrase &quot;protects against ... information gathering&quot; is not well defined.&nbsp; Is True Strike gathering information about the attacker or the victim?&nbsp; Remember that the target is not specified until the following attack.&nbsp; Is See Invisible &quot;gathering information&quot; or enhancing a sense of the perceiver?&nbsp; Is True Seeing &quot;gathering information&quot; or merely penetrating an Invisibility spell?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ridley's Cohort, post: 63116, member: 545"] I do not think that [i]all[/i] of the effects of True Seeing are necessarily in affecting those he sees. He could be construed as having better senses. If a color blind kobold cast See Color on himself, would he see the Mind Blanked Saruman of the Many Colors as colorful or in black & white? If I have a divination spell that gives me the Alertness feat, does it not work against a Mind Blanked person? Is my hearing less sharp when it comes to his footsteps? If I had a divination spell that explicitly makes a character "completely and totally immune to all illusions" what happens when the Mind Blanked Invisible mage walks by? Is the divination spell gathering information or simply making the illusion ineffective? If you take the extreme view that all divinations completely and totally fail to help gather any information in any form whatsoever, then logically anyone with True Seeing would never be able to see a Mind Blanked person at all, whether invisible or not. After all, True Seeing someone with no auras reveals information does it not? Makes me wonder if a Mind Blanked Clerics prayers can be answered by their god...:rolleyes: The real problem is the phrase "protects against ... information gathering" is not well defined. Is True Strike gathering information about the attacker or the victim? Remember that the target is not specified until the following attack. Is See Invisible "gathering information" or enhancing a sense of the perceiver? Is True Seeing "gathering information" or merely penetrating an Invisibility spell? [/QUOTE]

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