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Mind blank vs. see invisibility/true seeing
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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 64291" data-attributes="member: 2209"><p><strong>vote for mindblock protecting</strong></p><p></p><p>Invisibility is a glamer illusion so it is not a mind affecting effect.</p><p></p><p>for mindblank, the operative language is:</p><p></p><p>"Target: One creature"</p><p></p><p>and also</p><p></p><p>"This spell protects against all mind-affecting spells and effects as well as information gathering by divination spells or effects."</p><p></p><p>It seems that the spell protects the creature from divination, not his spells.</p><p></p><p>I would think there is a legitimate difference between a spell caster and his spells.</p><p></p><p>For instance, with detect magic, a reasonable interpretation is that you can detect the strong magic of a mind blank, but not pinpoint it to a particular caster or area (that would gather information on the mindblanked caster through divination).</p><p></p><p>You could detect a caster's spells through divinations but not connect them to the mindblanked caster.</p><p></p><p>Making a deduction from the lack of information seems different from gathering information directly through a divination. Otherwise using a detect life type spell on somebody you see will give you information whether there is a positive hit or not. Either the divination reveals he is alive, or it does not at which point the caster can deduce the target is an illusion, undead, construct, or mind-blanked, but regardless he will have gathered the information that the mindblanked character does not register on the detect life divination. </p><p></p><p>True seeing however, seems to directly give information about the creatures looked at,</p><p></p><p>"The character confers on the subject the ability to see all things as they actually are. The subject sees through normal and magical darkness, notices secret doors hidden by magic, sees the exact locations of creatures or objects under blur or displacement effects, sees invisible creatures or objects normally, sees through illusions, and sees the true form of polymorphed, changed, or transmuted things."</p><p></p><p>The ability to see a caster as he actually is through a divination seems to be stopped by the mind blank. Similarly seeing an invisible creature normally seems to be gathering information about that creature.</p><p></p><p>A differently worded spell that made a creature not see glamers would seem to work. They would then not see the invisibility glamer which targets the mindblanked caster.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 64291, member: 2209"] [b]vote for mindblock protecting[/b] Invisibility is a glamer illusion so it is not a mind affecting effect. for mindblank, the operative language is: "Target: One creature" and also "This spell protects against all mind-affecting spells and effects as well as information gathering by divination spells or effects." It seems that the spell protects the creature from divination, not his spells. I would think there is a legitimate difference between a spell caster and his spells. For instance, with detect magic, a reasonable interpretation is that you can detect the strong magic of a mind blank, but not pinpoint it to a particular caster or area (that would gather information on the mindblanked caster through divination). You could detect a caster's spells through divinations but not connect them to the mindblanked caster. Making a deduction from the lack of information seems different from gathering information directly through a divination. Otherwise using a detect life type spell on somebody you see will give you information whether there is a positive hit or not. Either the divination reveals he is alive, or it does not at which point the caster can deduce the target is an illusion, undead, construct, or mind-blanked, but regardless he will have gathered the information that the mindblanked character does not register on the detect life divination. True seeing however, seems to directly give information about the creatures looked at, "The character confers on the subject the ability to see all things as they actually are. The subject sees through normal and magical darkness, notices secret doors hidden by magic, sees the exact locations of creatures or objects under blur or displacement effects, sees invisible creatures or objects normally, sees through illusions, and sees the true form of polymorphed, changed, or transmuted things." The ability to see a caster as he actually is through a divination seems to be stopped by the mind blank. Similarly seeing an invisible creature normally seems to be gathering information about that creature. A differently worded spell that made a creature not see glamers would seem to work. They would then not see the invisibility glamer which targets the mindblanked caster. [/QUOTE]
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