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<blockquote data-quote="Jack Simth" data-source="post: 2780228" data-attributes="member: 29252"><p>Don't get me wrong; it gives you that ability; the suggestion was not that it <em>does not</em> give the ability to see etherial things, but that (if it acts as a brushing away of magic impediments to seeing what's really there, as you suggested a post or two ago) but that, with such an interpertation of how True Sight functions, that it <em>should not</em> do so, as there is no magical impediment blocking sight in such a case. </p><p></p><p>Now consider the case of a Mind Blanked Native (MBN) to the Etherial Plane - a Material Mage (MM) couldn't see the MBN normally, there is no illusion or transmutation blocking the MM from seeing the MBN, but the MM can't see the MBN. Should True Sight let the MM see the MBN? If it does, how is that not information gathering, similar to, say, a Scrying attempt?</p><p></p><p>Mind you, I'm personally of the opinion that there's a lot of wiggle room in the assorted spell descriptions (making it a DM judgement call, as so many things are), but that True Sight and See Invisible both should get past a Mind Blank (at least for those on the same plane) but that Nondetection should function normally against them as Nondetection gives a defense without giving a sure defense.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jack Simth, post: 2780228, member: 29252"] Don't get me wrong; it gives you that ability; the suggestion was not that it [i]does not[/i] give the ability to see etherial things, but that (if it acts as a brushing away of magic impediments to seeing what's really there, as you suggested a post or two ago) but that, with such an interpertation of how True Sight functions, that it [i]should not[/i] do so, as there is no magical impediment blocking sight in such a case. Now consider the case of a Mind Blanked Native (MBN) to the Etherial Plane - a Material Mage (MM) couldn't see the MBN normally, there is no illusion or transmutation blocking the MM from seeing the MBN, but the MM can't see the MBN. Should True Sight let the MM see the MBN? If it does, how is that not information gathering, similar to, say, a Scrying attempt? Mind you, I'm personally of the opinion that there's a lot of wiggle room in the assorted spell descriptions (making it a DM judgement call, as so many things are), but that True Sight and See Invisible both should get past a Mind Blank (at least for those on the same plane) but that Nondetection should function normally against them as Nondetection gives a defense without giving a sure defense. [/QUOTE]
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