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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2782563" data-attributes="member: 2011">You basically said information gathering is not information gathering.&quot;In a broad sense, of course, looking at a polymorphed creature with True Seeing, allowing you to see it in its natural form, does give you some information about the subject (what it looks like), but that's not what I understand as information gathering.&quot;If it pierces invisibility or polymorph, it gives information on the target who is invisible or polymorphed. Hence the reason True Seeing is a Divination spell in the first place.It comes down to a simple question: Does True Seeing give you information about Invisible or Polymorphed creatures that you would not have if you did not have the True Seeing spell up? Yes. You know what they look like. You know where they are, etc.Hence, it is an informational gathering Divination spell (like all Divination spells).I think the reason people interpret Mind Blank as not protecting versus all Divination spells is because it states:instead of:I think people think that the phrase &quot;as information gathering by&quot; is superfluous with the interpretation that all divination spells are stopped. I disagree. The reason you need that phrase or one like it is because Mind Blank does not stop the divination spells from being cast and used. It just stops information from being accessed concerning the protected creature. You can cast Divination spells and still gain a lot of information, just as long as you do not gain information on the protected creature.Mind Blank does not stop divination spells from working and that is why the &quot;information gathering&quot; phrase is important. Mind Blank merely stops them from working in regard to gaining information on the protected creature. The Divination spells still work in all other regards.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 2782563, member: 2011"] You basically said information gathering is not information gathering. "In a broad sense, of course, looking at a polymorphed creature with True Seeing, allowing you to see it in its natural form, does give you some information about the subject (what it looks like), but that's not what I understand as information gathering." If it pierces invisibility or polymorph, it gives information on the target who is invisible or polymorphed. Hence the reason True Seeing is a Divination spell in the first place. It comes down to a simple question: Does True Seeing give you information about Invisible or Polymorphed creatures that you would not have if you did not have the True Seeing spell up? Yes. You know what they look like. You know where they are, etc. Hence, it is an informational gathering Divination spell (like all Divination spells). I think the reason people interpret Mind Blank as not protecting versus all Divination spells is because it states: instead of: I think people think that the phrase "as information gathering by" is superfluous with the interpretation that all divination spells are stopped. I disagree. The reason you need that phrase or one like it is because Mind Blank does not stop the divination spells from being cast and used. It just stops information from being accessed concerning the protected creature. You can cast Divination spells and still gain a lot of information, just as long as you do not gain information on the protected creature. Mind Blank does not stop divination spells from working and that is why the "information gathering" phrase is important. Mind Blank merely stops them from working in regard to gaining information on the protected creature. The Divination spells still work in all other regards. [/QUOTE]

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