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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Benjamin Olson" data-source="post: 8642090" data-attributes="member: 6988941">Okay, looking back over this I don't think I really answered the question. I think it would be very cool if some character from the PCs background or a prior campaign turned out to be the Black Spider, but I think making the same character also Gundren Rockseeker is probably going to require more rewriting than it's worth (if that's what you're proposing). You have to come up with why he would have hired these adventurers to escort a cart to a store in the town, or hook them in differently. Gundren does have a couple of missing brothers, so if you played with the time frame of the brothers arriving you could possibly make one of them the Black Spider without having to completely reinvent the opening of the module.I'm not sure how having such a twist would "railroad" the players, unless you are strongly foreshadowing it but not allowing them to act on figuring it out, or putting them in contact with someone who is secretly the Black Spider and not letting them defeat them before the big showdown. But as long as you just have the Black Spider (whomever they are be in the mines from the time they arrive in the region it doesn't really require any railroading to have them be whomever you want them to be. Now if the plan is to have a person who is both the Black Spider and Gundren and have them similarly be rescued (or rather "rescued") from the Goblin castle and travel with the group that may require too much railroading to make it work.</blockquote>

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