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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ahnehnois" data-source="post: 6163541" data-attributes="member: 17106">Given the choice between setting up a board with miniatures, analyzing them, and moving them around, versus simply asking the DM "can I attack from here", I don't see any advantage to the former. If anything, the absence of said miniatures makes it easier for the DM to make up details about terrain and positioning as he goes, which is, after all, his job. I don't see any advantage in this arena to making the DM's job harder and making battles take more time.Fair enough. Very few rpgs are predicated on this kind of mapping, but there are exceptions, and the OP was not very specific.I can, however, say from experience that I found it much easier to play both 2e and 3e without miniatures than with. It's not like I haven't used them or don't know anyone who's into miniatures. I used to use them regularly, then started playing more and more without them, realizing how much easier it was to run a game that way, and never looked back.I don't begrudge anyone for their own style. I simply don't understand it. I place miniature wargaming on a similar level to LARPing and cosplay; something that people sometimes do and which is related to tabletop roleplaying games, but is not itself a tabletop roleplaying game. To say that miniatures detract from the rpg experience is not to say that miniatures wargaming is not its own perfectly worthwhile experience. If you want to combine hobbies, by all means go ahead.</blockquote>

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