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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 4673140" data-attributes="member: 114">I consider this to be the biggest problem - by the time the party are mid heroic level there a number of ways of getting automatic damage going in every encounter, which means that minions are just free xp.I had a good encounter on Sunday when I challenged the 6th level party with a bunch of 12th level troglodyte minions - it worked well, as the party said "that's a lot, they must be minions", then tried to hit them and found it was a little more difficult than they expected... and it turned into a tough fight.Until the auto-damage power came into play, of course, when it could have got really bad if I hadn't got a Grell handy.Back to the issue though. On the one hand half damage from a missed attack doesn't kill a minion. On the other hand the smallest amount of damage from a zone which they are in at the start of their turn kills them.I'm toying with the idea of minions not being affected by ongoing damage, automatic damage or half damage on a miss. They ONLY get killed by something which has hit their defences. Anything else 'hurts' them, but doesn't take them down.Cheers</blockquote>