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<blockquote data-quote="Atlatl Jones" data-source="post: 4233483" data-attributes="member: 54620"><p>The minion rules have gotten me thinking about monster summoning powers. 3e monster summoning added a lot of bookkeeping to the game, required lots of extra rolls for the player, and usually wasn't very effective.. When monster summoning powers are added to 4e (if they're not already in there), I strongly suspect that they will only summon minions. That way there's no HP to track, and no extra damage rolls. In 3e, summoned monsters were often little more than obstacles, because their attacks and ACs were ineffective for the level of the PC summoning them, but minions can have effective attacks and defenses for the level without being overpowering.</p><p></p><p>I also suspect that the powers will have the monster stats listed with them, and have the monsters be specifically designed for the power. That way it avoids having to cross reference the MM, and MM stats might be unbalanced for PC use.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Atlatl Jones, post: 4233483, member: 54620"] The minion rules have gotten me thinking about monster summoning powers. 3e monster summoning added a lot of bookkeeping to the game, required lots of extra rolls for the player, and usually wasn't very effective.. When monster summoning powers are added to 4e (if they're not already in there), I strongly suspect that they will only summon minions. That way there's no HP to track, and no extra damage rolls. In 3e, summoned monsters were often little more than obstacles, because their attacks and ACs were ineffective for the level of the PC summoning them, but minions can have effective attacks and defenses for the level without being overpowering. I also suspect that the powers will have the monster stats listed with them, and have the monsters be specifically designed for the power. That way it avoids having to cross reference the MM, and MM stats might be unbalanced for PC use. [/QUOTE]
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