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<blockquote data-quote="Vaeron" data-source="post: 4193565" data-attributes="member: 3956">There's usually an equipment difference in what minions carry versus what others carry.&nbsp; At least for kobolds.&nbsp; There's no reason at all players should know, definitively, whether they're facing minions or not.&nbsp; In the case of kobolds, there are kobolds with slings, with bows, with orbs, and with spears.&nbsp; Kobolds with spears are either skirmishers or minions.&nbsp; If the players figure out that most kobolds with spears die quickly, but not all of them, that keeps the edge on.&nbsp; And if ya wanna be real nasty about it, change out the minion's weapon so that he's carrying a shortbow or a sling himself!Someone raised this issue as a reason they didn't like 4e, providing an example of a wizard with a dagger taking down hordes of kobolds... I said that's only an issue if, instead of storytelling, you just came right out and said &quot;You're attacked by kobold minions!&quot;&nbsp; I think that's shoddily done, myself.&nbsp; &quot;You see several kobolds with spears and slings&quot; is better, but still not as exciting as it could be.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Vaeron, post: 4193565, member: 3956"] There's usually an equipment difference in what minions carry versus what others carry. At least for kobolds. There's no reason at all players should know, definitively, whether they're facing minions or not. In the case of kobolds, there are kobolds with slings, with bows, with orbs, and with spears. Kobolds with spears are either skirmishers or minions. If the players figure out that most kobolds with spears die quickly, but not all of them, that keeps the edge on. And if ya wanna be real nasty about it, change out the minion's weapon so that he's carrying a shortbow or a sling himself! Someone raised this issue as a reason they didn't like 4e, providing an example of a wizard with a dagger taking down hordes of kobolds... I said that's only an issue if, instead of storytelling, you just came right out and said "You're attacked by kobold minions!" I think that's shoddily done, myself. "You see several kobolds with spears and slings" is better, but still not as exciting as it could be. [/QUOTE]

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