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Message: <blockquote data-quote="UngeheuerLich" data-source="post: 4997213" data-attributes="member: 59057">IMHO insubstantial is really badly implemented: reason: if you give half hp to monsters and reduce every damage by half, the net effect is zero. I know there are feats which allow to pierce insubstantial, but you could as well write: they deal double damage to insubstantial monsters etc. If resist and vulnerabilities however would bypass insubstantial, than this trait had an effect, but even then just doubling vulnerability had the same effect. edit: ok, when you are adding effects, that make you insubstantial and tempory hp in the mix, it starts making a bit of sense... but most monsters lack this mechanic.</blockquote>