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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 4481650" data-attributes="member: 2011">But the DM is in control of his monsters.If he wants no temporary hit points with minions, he does not mix and match minions with creatures that give temporary hit points.But, this is such a silly corner case anyway. Even if the DM uses creatures that can give temporary hit points:1) The temporary hit points have to be significantly high to matter. THP 5 +1 HP = 6 total. Our 1st level PCs blew through that most of the time. Only minor damage powers like Cloud of Daggers or Cleave might not break through that in one shot.2) If 1 minion encounter in 10, the DM throws in creatures with temp hit points, and he has 1 minion encounter every 5 encounters, that's 1 encounter in 50 where it matters at all. Are you telling us that "it's a pain to keep track of" this tiny amount of data 1 encounter in 50? <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" />3) There is exactly one creature in the MM that gives temporary hit points to other creatures: Kobold Wyrmpriest. Sure, more such creatures might show up in later publications. But, the only reason this even came up in discussion is because KotS had a KW and Minions in the same encounter. That's a fluke. The 1 in 10 above could easily be replaced with 1 in 100. Are you telling us that "it's a pain to keep track of" this tiny amount of data 1 encounter in 500? <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" />There are much more flawed rules in the game system that need house rules than this. For as often as this comes up in the game and how often minions wouldn't just be killed in one (or two) shots anyway, minion temporary hit points does not even come close to being on any serious DM radar. It's not worth even considering making a house rule over.</blockquote>

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