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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 4482879" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>A leader monster that:</p><p></p><p>a) is a Kobold Wyrmpriest or</p><p>b) is a Warlord Template (or possibly a Cleric Template using an At Will power when he can be using Encounter and Daily powers, or possibly a Paladin Template with Righteous Smite, 3 templates out of 8 and 1 out of 3 is fairly worthless)</p><p></p><p>and</p><p></p><p>c) actually takes a Temporary Hit Point power when other powers are typically better</p><p></p><p>and</p><p></p><p>d) that Temporary Hit Point power adds more than 3 or 4 hit points where it really matters</p><p></p><p>and</p><p></p><p>e) that Temporary Hit Point power is actually used on more than one minion (since most THP powers are single target and even if not, minions get wiped out quickly and will often not be around long enough for a Leader to actually use the power unless he uses it in round one or two)</p><p></p><p>is definitely a corner case.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You consider this common and enough of a pain for a DM to be worthy of a house rule??? You don't think that a template monster designed to both be a leader and to have minion allies should not get full advantage of the normal THP rules if he has those types of powers? <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /></p><p></p><p>Now you are arguing just to argue. This is definitely a corner case for the number of times it will actually significantly matter in anyone's game, even if they do use a lot of templates (which I suspect is not the norm).</p><p></p><p>If it happens a lot in your game and you want to neuter your Leader Templates, fine. Make a house rule. But, don't pretend that it really happens a lot and actually needs a house rule.</p><p></p><p>The normal rule is fine because a Leader Template should be able to protect his minions. What good is a Leader that cannot protect his minions? What kind of challenge is that? <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 4482879, member: 2011"] A leader monster that: a) is a Kobold Wyrmpriest or b) is a Warlord Template (or possibly a Cleric Template using an At Will power when he can be using Encounter and Daily powers, or possibly a Paladin Template with Righteous Smite, 3 templates out of 8 and 1 out of 3 is fairly worthless) and c) actually takes a Temporary Hit Point power when other powers are typically better and d) that Temporary Hit Point power adds more than 3 or 4 hit points where it really matters and e) that Temporary Hit Point power is actually used on more than one minion (since most THP powers are single target and even if not, minions get wiped out quickly and will often not be around long enough for a Leader to actually use the power unless he uses it in round one or two) is definitely a corner case. You consider this common and enough of a pain for a DM to be worthy of a house rule??? You don't think that a template monster designed to both be a leader and to have minion allies should not get full advantage of the normal THP rules if he has those types of powers? :lol: Now you are arguing just to argue. This is definitely a corner case for the number of times it will actually significantly matter in anyone's game, even if they do use a lot of templates (which I suspect is not the norm). If it happens a lot in your game and you want to neuter your Leader Templates, fine. Make a house rule. But, don't pretend that it really happens a lot and actually needs a house rule. The normal rule is fine because a Leader Template should be able to protect his minions. What good is a Leader that cannot protect his minions? What kind of challenge is that? :lol: [/QUOTE]
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