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<blockquote data-quote="AllisterH" data-source="post: 4215044" data-attributes="member: 51325">Er, of course the DM lets you win....It's ridiculously easy for the DMs to beat the players by the rules as they were. Simply send a higher level monster.I like both the minion and the Solo concept as they both facilitate what I think is D&amp;D's strength. To make an enjoyable experience for the players. I would say a larger majority of D&amp;D players are interested in modelling things they see on screen and in books and both the Solo and Minion allow the DM to do this.Without the minion concept, we have the pre-4E situation where even though both Conan and LotR have great &quot;heroes vs the minion scenes&quot;, D&amp;D could never model it. I always considered that a fallure of the D&amp;D rules in that it couldn't even depict a common trope found in its varied source material.Similarly, the concept of the Solo (which admittedly fewer people gripe about) is a textbook example of how you CAN'T treat the world the same as the game as they don't mesh well at all.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AllisterH, post: 4215044, member: 51325"] Er, of course the DM lets you win....It's ridiculously easy for the DMs to beat the players by the rules as they were. Simply send a higher level monster. I like both the minion and the Solo concept as they both facilitate what I think is D&D's strength. To make an enjoyable experience for the players. I would say a larger majority of D&D players are interested in modelling things they see on screen and in books and both the Solo and Minion allow the DM to do this. Without the minion concept, we have the pre-4E situation where even though both Conan and LotR have great "heroes vs the minion scenes", D&D could never model it. I always considered that a fallure of the D&D rules in that it couldn't even depict a common trope found in its varied source material. Similarly, the concept of the Solo (which admittedly fewer people gripe about) is a textbook example of how you CAN'T treat the world the same as the game as they don't mesh well at all. [/QUOTE]

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